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Title
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Rockingham County Criminal Court: Criminal Cases
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Rockingham County Criminal Court
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1820-1971; currently digitized: 1820-1930.
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1889
Title
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Commonwealth v. A.J. Vanpelt
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Misdemeanor
Sale of Alcohol
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Defendant charged with misdemeanor sale of alcohol.
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CCR001_001_033
Vanpelt
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intention
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her from nttaok,
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lar
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io protao1 llia da,,...ter,
guilt,,.
fo tba glvl.ng of wh1ob 1111tru.otlona
tl:.1 Oo!lll!lOnwealtb obJeot,4,
an, ref1>a1d to gin
111g to give the
ua
01ptlO.,
Teet, thia
the•,
wh1oh obltot1on
and •aoll ot them,
the Court
auota1nad
to wl:.ioh aot 1® of tbe Coort 1.11r1~s-
eaoh of tlto,
C"'....dq
tht defandal>t
of fleptember,
bl' ooanatl
1919,
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!t-,
~~o
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t....tnc h11rn.
a,:,n,t1 '"".:·~o(lnt."'.y?
v•s. ~1~· on
4
11••·
,j,, y1n
11 ,Ti,&1itt-1
1•
t~~
th1e
29th
a~-~• J~o,
jt1T"7 how it
1919.
ha[ ooned
t)\'lt
thi
1
':vnt{~
i: 1
ooourx-ed1
ho11• on tho ~lltn of Juno, lunt;
ani tt.ero
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stock
in there
when
1
ho111e.
A
stouk
r
h~Q. been to South Cc.ro1 :n."·
bod. be en u n t~er'l
A Yee,
B1:r.
eo•• t 1l!:ea e:1-e had
ot
the ., •
.,t,
All
on 1orir lllr 4?
Ettll"'P!lere?,e h6d b --.n ~n.,,e,_.
,,~th
stock,
nn4
1
•r voo the atook out two
or thro~
t 1,,,.,e a. duy out
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You dtd ha Ye i~or,:,atton
Q
!rum
dau;htor
J'DU'J"
that
tho
ot Vcr.•01t 1 1 h:..d baon ootburing you?
stoo~
Ii!.<. ~~,
TB! :IJU!i!:
"""=•av•
to ae
Objaotod
toll
•hat 701.1 hoard!
fbat tt:!'o.,.,..tion
..ti.:. you ·1:1.'\"'I'" ~bout ct: '> -,; bt"JnJ o.:, tho
placo?
Wl!lf?.SS:
Q Di,i she
Oo:ol!J,a
1 !)<milud thn
!i:>c i>oen in tboro.
hors& up,
ehe B&ld the
V'>U b-A~orc <;;.~ u!'t•~· ,rou on,., ·,,u1.1kJ":ro111
South
t&ll
+~at ,~oak
\!~er
etock
b&tl been trespaeo1n6
on yoUl' plcoe 'I
A Teo,, elr.
A
I told
Shu
:,ou,
1M d.ttor
t~'d
You nev,,r
A
1 w•,. 'b-...,,-J
the l»rca
t~' d me bof'ora
She n,vnr
Q
: pi!Ji:lJd
he6P,i ar:,-thJr.3
11'\d
up.
fhut
ie wbst
tbJlt ••tllling,
you ponnA up the
before
d1d no': lv..:."':'o
t1tl.t: ~o talk
o-.e,
borao?
the:,.ti
things.
Q
ar.
plai.n.t abou\
J.iatlMey,
I &..t4il.,eit:/,,,
1~ ,,,.0-1 r..aJ. •-r.1 ;;s~a.
Qn .1U~ na't1l
Ven ~111111
•,t
"'to •:t :-:-~~acz!.;;
tin;, cj~-"'t!!T 1~ou
put tl.e t.o,-ce uy,,
A
Th•Y wer,
or e •cry
in th•...,
"21 a=er,
\-illOO " , oo.k
tel'!' \"eft)rfl • . OMl'lt1Mt"~.
'1 But 41d ynn h.,~,. nbcnt
up on
!lbou~ th:ee
~i,,.t
bo!ore
A
I aon't
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Well.
A
It oam~ in and o~""' ur on my eod,
~
.'OU l,)Ut tho ho,·ae up?
r~1aomb~r About thci:.
the horse
br-ieb lan4
oamo up there
e1 I.her.
to your place?
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on ynnr vo"J.nd 9
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Y~z, c!~.
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An' yon p•nn"~ tre l><>reeu11t
4
Yea, ei!'.
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In y~n~ st~bl~Y
1 ~~t z~~ below my hou1a.
A 'Y!l.,, e~•.
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n..~t tlmo
A
:r.1~T•n o'o1""0':.
Q
El~Tl'n o'ol.,ok
A
Yes, eir:
o
lire
A
Sunday,
0
'il'ilat h&J)pe11eOnext?
A
I lot
&her
on t'>\o 29tl> day o~ J=e,
1919?
I l~ok ed at tho clock,
s ,reek
thRt
th• h~r••
dey or on SU,,day?
\hero;
st&}
tin'- lll,' QbU.;hL•r • ,nt
to J.:ra. ~:l;Yl01''8 &:lli told.
~in~er
lira. T~'lor
o# tho do~ wae tMt?
where her cow ,.,uo.
c..!'U,!~ho
Jira.
Ti>:;lor.
Up
She aelted
e~iil uemeth'!ll£ to Jlrs.
!8,'lor
-l 'l'hnt 1• bo:,ri"~.
your poraonal
:rou do n~t i:now 11nythint
lcn.l'rrlu4oo.
A Yee, &lr,
J.)U
;ci.,._rour
to Ill'&. ?to•lor'••
but
about
that
of
~&u.ghter -..·errt a.1r•t.J?'
ebe told
her something.
1 ru. •h• CO!'IO b~ r
A Sh~ oe.,.e beck n1root)7.
Q
!'That hf\~pen~4
next?
A We looke¼ down tho road en~ t>,er,
ea1d that
Sh~ thou,3ht
did no< bow
they
aro for
~
ll"ho
the:,
'but •hen
th•a;
they
o~mc up,
w"r" 1'0"19 "br&llohere,"
!l.t
1:hey went to tlle bar11.
and Oh$
tlret,
she entd
8nd
"!bore
th~ boroi,."
••r6
i:~oe• people~
A Va.nPelt arul bis two gi~le.
V~u;,. t
horaof
w,..
hi~
~.3
girlt1
ool!lng to your ol
,ic~
to go<:: tb&I
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air.
A Y•••
go to tL-e eta.Ola: tlal .-in•u th~7
1u1lf-w117 bft\"lf&Ollthd :fenoe $Jld th• a table,
w3o abont
on up to ,o~ot;1~s
•~rst5n,;
liko
.,..:, thn stt..ble.
a lu:a•
1 o= n;>t oerta!.n.
in.
OM,1e
the way I uauall7
l•
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r.6 or 30 teat
o! u~.
lr.1.t h~ tu.mad
to tht
th•~o. IL~4.
troo
but I
lllld they
~h• two girl•
osme
came
ur~un-6
l.J""t and oe~
woe out no:rc to the oorn-orib;
y,...,,., r-1.::r~to.lk1"i8 to "'J"J,ar.4said
and
"Get ?!"/ h.orllll out of the.re
'\'C.ick."
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Di~ he hllTe &'!17t••e,; ill hia hnn,1?
A
'"ion (iir,
h1' "1d.
H~ hod'!.
thfl gun on me when a.br.mt P.6
A ·g~ ,,.,. tho sr-.,•
8
lltlle
b!t.
t-ree..
fho7
'f?187 tore
noiled.
eta
Be bad raieed
or
g-.1n :_"'
30 f'"'et o:f' :Jt!
around
&ll'1 ho uhot.
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Di1l
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ho •
n.a At t ~'l0
..,,,I l h-rl 11othitl8 t<> 4ofend
gun o::, ••
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Tile;, hllll d~"•
turne6.
...~eri
tor• tho bo,r1 o::f Lb• otnblo door.
It
tt off. "'14 I told them to tole!, tho hors•
1 turned
~o hill!.
'ww! ,fll•i h'd 1.·~.!"'oJ
F.e -:•'2 in !UIII!.-r1t1t.t o:i, a.nl ! :it-•e1 up
the hor~• b$d hia toro-t8et
at ail.
"i"
•>:f !M•
~lten
to
W60
out.
IJIIO•lf .-1th
lf not nll out 111'"'11 to.rned
fB<>ina hio ao 1
hltc aqu11re.
tbo horse
When I tw-l'lod f"'>!nc
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J.ICl,J.
h&••
8'lythine
,. OQr:-7-oomb,
n
ll!
A
:lo • uh·,
,,-->u •!:!&!11,": ;o
ye.-, el r.
"tl\YO•
1• at
}U1!1?
I
I novor dono ll i;hing;
th'ng
to l'llf
fllero
wns no ,-,,olt 1'hron.
01' them.
rh:tt
.,,,e nll
or Nl;tthlng
2 Did ~-" have ~he gun
A Y••,
Jn ::Mor h.•tnds u.t .oll?
that
qu10~.
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talcen
1 t down.
B•~ drow t~n~
to d.o •
wac aal d before
h• shot.
ot the
ltir.d.
l:n 8 tt.reatolli1'!"
wq,
a 1J-: he C<-<.c on up 8'-d caid
thore
attO!!lpted
MT'T
"Get tto
;;w> on mo •45 or 30
do you nay?
boreo
out of
tooi and he never
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A toe,
tbe girls
air.
I thought
the gun down but 1natea4
~
to take
the bore•
oat?
when ho got the
ho •hot
horse
me. 'rile bullet
h• would throw
1e ther•
7et.
Bow .tar wae be !rom ;o-o.T
1te~a when be obot me.
11nbutton 7ou.r ehirt and show Juot where tho bullet
A About sovon
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Juat
~ou on the collar bone, tb•ro·
A I !:xh1 b1 t, ng wound)
GGtl ""'"",
hit
weeks it
Did.
:,011
A Jee,
straight
It
eoor is there.
c&ll
there.
a. 4ootor?
W see
I went
Bir;
down to the dootor'•
on and 6 ot down to hi•
la t1v•
or six
.
~t
lhat
hun4rad
eteble
7erdo
l.i altting
evening.
that
ver7 near
ea qu\ok os he did.
table
for•
rl ght b7 the publio
1 Jou mean the.t wben :,ou wont to the noctor
l:ia
l .,.nt
f'rom his et&blo to mine.
1<>• ao to h!a
A Ilia stable
paat
rll)ht
Seo It
!'ew
l.
( Indioatln~
"
up but tho
h~s beele~
! t •11 7011. 1n ~ho lJ'.et
road.
'&
7ou .,.., t right
atable?
-~ Yes, sir.
Q
But you wor9 going
to tho doctor's?
A Yea. sir.
1
And 70D !O.
A Tee, air.
40,rn
to that
point
about
lt wo.s obout 500 7ardo
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f'l'Om wher•
V..r"elt
ditlT
he 414 th1•
ohootir.g up to hie etoblo.
~
You younetl
do not
A I have on 10.oa that
with
vor,
h113h feYer
been ao,oothing
Q
llo•,
With var."elt'e
1n
1t I
th•
1n there
bullet
tl:at
7ou "ant
Etook?
o ,uaed fia
ta tr. :,our boq?
"or I a,ffero!
aod from ;'ddt.>;1 on to a.eturd~;
tl,oro
before
lmo• wbo ther
laot
end there
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Ilea
teTOr 8.lmoet oonetontl.7.
~o,,n to South Carolina
wero :,ou 'bothered
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A Yoe. s il';
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a"
~Rra.
t=
oaro ,u,ythlng
las
jaet; Urned
tbero
•'tli
w1th tbem,
o"t on
tile
about tbom -- turned
'bot'b.e'!'edb:1 th.e~ J?
Q
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all
:,ou 11114
boaideo
36 yarde
awa;i,, and hoard
She
al::e?
WBB
Wl'\S
e1 ttlni;
.\own in
ftont
o • the door.
":he do '>r to you:: hon.ee?
of rJ/1 door.
A In front
Q
sutmer.
~a• aaid.
'l rnerc
l
W• were
r.d
that
A
tho
t.tld don't
Aeeault
hte two g1.r1e. his t o danthtere•
A Jo one oleo.
"q daughter wes aitting
Van"elt
tor
ab.o"J..teveJ7
ott
to ooe tbts
an;ybod;y there
1.1 roal
the11 out on e.n:; bod;y.
to t'!e,,
t"7'r.g
I reckon,
aoor fronts
?hat
the pleoo where the
Muault
took: place.
doea
it?
A It front•
eaot,
on the road.
~~•
aaeaUlt
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right
north
f'ro?!I there.
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A She oould
it
ae not
ahe oonld
that
~
oould not aoe ;you?
eh• WR&etsndtr.g
a•e if
high
ae 11, le
b6ve aeon it;
but
r,"",
and if
up.
Tho o orn ie there.
Oho ltsd been standing
she wae eitti
ng on a ohair
but
up
and heard
ell
was said.
She•~•
4
l!Y IIIL OT"':
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better
sitting
at
the ~oor and did not seo it!
She 414 not aoe it but oho heard
'"bile ""
the
&!'"
eltuat1on
there.
let'
ther•.
!lino :'ldtth
1f we o..,not
o1ttelop
Did ;yon e.nd la!io• tldith,
A Both of us ea" th em.
A
e••
evo:rything.
•• w the"' :i'iret •
•
.. littl•
your danGhter.
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Yee, 81r.
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11Ye8 belo,r yo11f
ho1111efaoea
41raotl7
recee some that
llr.
Vo~=•lt'e hotus~. does it r.ot?
Yo11oan efte fro~ the tr~r.t ot r:r:,hou.8e
'lf&7.
to v,n1!'e1t •a.
Q
!be public
~altee a little
road
btr.4
in gtling
from 7our
ho11ae to hie f
A Yes, e ir.
Ther
&ro dra11-bar1
A One At the
1n front
en~ o~ t'lo
'l Thero ie one pair
A
tea,
~
Did :.Use Mith
of :,our
"lBoe T
hill.
of draw-bare
thoro
a1>1 ::,ou go 11'1 that
"81 f
Bir.
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VM~olt Md. hie t,ro girle,
tl:e11 :!'iret
ae tJ:.07 came up the rood.
II.ow,ras tbllt?
or did 7ou?
no
i.:i-.
aa.wthe=.
first?
A
don't
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Wlwro '"""
A On the
Q
the horse and ehe was on the front
ourr,1ng
'u-Ft.
lloth o! u
porch
::,011
at
the front
ani
~
!lo,r di
A
I ea" them oom1ng up the road
you hapren
they were and l wont aroand
eta.bl•
door.
! Dr.1:
to come around
tlv>re;
Don at tbe house.
arour.d there.
whore eh~
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Md I wee not oertn1n
and eh• waon't
ot aurry1!1€ :,our horse:
or flt rour hoaao?
~
th.,,,.
at that tiJ:.ef
A J.roun~ eurr:,1%:g -.., lnr110,
You 8J'Oke
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.tl•• !.:<11th?
t·ont
'llhero wore
thMS
poroh.
certBtn
414 3'0114o th/lt
"110
who they
at the
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'l Look &t thia
:,ou:raolt
piotur•
o! 7our stable
A Yes, eir,
it
is a !,>iotura t&k n b7
that
end corn-orib?
I Atter
piot-u:r~)
•=ir.ing
ie.
~~.at i~ the stable
1
arul eee if
A Yes, Bir,
l'l '!:bat 1e the stable
1a it not?
there,
ll'here th• 4:>or 18 opon?
Yell, air.
A
C! 'that
ie the corr.-crib"
A Yea, a1,-. tb.,t ie the c~rn-crib.
'l !':om the stable ftlld oorn-orill
in llhioh
18 ;-Oil,.
diroction
house!
Pr>c th• atable.
1r.
this
l'ae there a lot ill whioc th•,.~
•
comoe up oloso to that oorn-orib?
A Its,
and thero
patch
ie the j!t\Tden, there,
in the garden.
~
In other
open; there
,
and thero
worde,
there
•••
roaating-oar
standing.
ie 10u:r BtDblo whero that
and there
•hloh
the houee
ia
18 a little
l!ere is where Van"olt
10 :,our corn-crib,
le that
door
18
ie your hOU80!
gnr\\en, between tb• bOUSt and the orchard
ot tho stable
A
or near the
hero,
etsbleT
Yes, eir.
or not a path whioh led fror,
1 1/1\8 there
houee
11nd there
ti»
Yes, e ir.
A
front
wu oorn at that
'l'bere ia the corn-orib
air,
-- snuth.
direction
u,to
the
the
bnol< o~ :,011r
atabl aT
A Yeo, Bir,
(l
'Ila• thoro
A
Tes, s 1r.
a path that
a front
I ueo o.11
poroh
1 Mies &d1th, you eald,
in f)'ont
or
the t1ao.
ot :,our howse t
wea on the front
porch?
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Toe. • 1,:-, on tbe t:ro nt ,oroh,
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You testi"
ed that
oouJ.d se~ to ,our
A Ted,
':
st&11dlng on 7our front
air.
could
tl:07 hear
on7th111£ thot
Yee, eir,
wae B'\14 --
evorythltS
• 1010. 7011 apoke o! oul')7:ng 70=
bouae; was that at tho end of that
I.
porch
•tablo?
A (Interrnptlr.g)
you
a pereon
It was b1<0Jro" th" houee,
that
bor••
then
wae es.id •
et
the
ba4k o!
rath?
fh• ho11J1•wae hrro and I """
book or the bouae.
1 You ware not, then,
horee.
bu1; !,.a4
~i,,.
A Yee. eir,
'l
Bo• di'
etablo when Jou ourr1ed tho
at the
ho:-ao baok o"
t••
"ousa?
l had him b&ok of tl,e
houeo.
;•au llm-pen to go to the
stablo?
A !fhe:n ~.
T
Tl'"'elt o•D
1- tih
btir9,
1 nnt
at~ble to moot him, and I told hia not to treerass
'l
Whr.• """• rou atan.:. ng wher you f1ret
ho had entered
,our
A I had loft
Q
on ey gro1Utd.
aew Van elt.
a!ter
p:remiee1T
'I/ff
ho'!lao or Tor, n~ar
o» ogp to tho
horeo
ill ~ont
and had gone around in front
o~
Was he in your orohard,
ot tho
houso,at1>Dllt1:g 1D the 7ard.
~&
that
te, whon he wae oo,.tng from
the draw-bars?
A Y•• • ei:r.
Re had th:rown the bare down and 11aa in m,r oroha:rd.
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Ho wae in you orohcrd?
A
Yee. air.
~
Dt~ he es7 aJl11;h1ng to .,-on fror, there!
A llo,
to the
it
corno:r
~
wu too far
o" th•
Yo,; then
,.,nt
garden
to th•
back,
bnt a•ter
• wont aronl)d tho path
he did,
bBck of 7onr houeo?
�f
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-- 10 -J. Yea, eh·.
,
A
""er•
ind :;~11 •r ..,._ e 1,:-.
'i l•.st
I
ourr;y1ng "'1 horao.
•118
t' e lu,ol< p6tb?
ero1lt~
'f1111?elt a:c4 hie girls
ing tl>ro,l\;h t!,e orch<•r4 or notT
doing
YBB
Com!ni; O!l th?'Ot15h t.~~ orolu,rd,
I '"' not certain
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'1he1 -.onld
your
A
,
= b~rn-1ari
to
II
70ur '>rchord,
wh ,ch 18 prao-
to r•&ch :,011r ~table?
011; the etable
&t
aot halt-
they
--from th~ roa4 to tlle etab\e.
:,aTd, in order
!hey wtr• at acme point
th• back ratb
anrl I r•ok~n
ba-.e to go tbrnllgh
etallle
: ha-.11
or toot
"""nt1111e, oom-
1n the
in the orohard
wao in the
orchard,
when you c•ll!Mlaround
l>Oint near ,•our ate bl•!
':
no
Spoke !!ret.
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I 8'>0lro :'irst.
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O n J~u tell
70u or the Vanz"eltef
I told
them not
to tre&'laaa
pi"ture.
or an:,+.h!ng,
on "'" but to go
book,
>e•r•
,·o
;!'T':ln tut
•ere <r.on rou told
Juey about
tl:e
h1• to go baok end not to troe)lCloa
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an olcl cuehion
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th<'i-e ( in'. 'Mt:!.r.g
Do•e !.l'-~At
ouahi'ln ~ndlc~t• •1-l"e rau ,are?
A. ':l, .t la
1'1'ore 7ar.-•l t stood when be ahot "'"·
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ouehion,
lib,,,-• was Van.Felt «d
on the
path.
b.l.11 g'irla
"1:.en ;rou eald
A
ibo~t h&l.! wq ~r,m the rona to tho otnblo,
Q
1ill~t
did Vanl'elt
A 1'!w7 415 not
0!' tlle girls
C>•••ranything;
J:>14t'>eJF go togotber
tben,
that T
8"¥ when ;1011 •nid
that?
th<7 Just bolt:~«!';~~.
waU:t,ig three
&breaet,
or did
on
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A the
to the
girls
lort,
went atraigbt
arour.d
11 ?ou •~
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••nt
etre1gbt
( I:.terru,tir.g
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Yea, e1r.
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l
By bi111going
'f ,.,,. ~
to the
in&1 find oa:::e it
oa""
to the
stable!
here
on pictu.re)!
atld. ha came cro\U\d
about
that
na a largo •~Jll• ~r•o tbore
41"••
bia
to tho jur:,.,hnt
1:,q,lain
l was u)I hera
,:,o.
l'Uld I sot
111•find bo
left.
•or th• etablo~
out
bebtnd
to tho oorn-orib,
Q
OD
door (indicatin&
to the left,
A. fho:, eeN1rated
:!'rom
an4 VnnPelt
;ou?
.or. V1ui•el t
th&t io 7our etablo
th•r•
etable
a~roaohe~
them.
g1rle
t/:e
to the
ae tber
air.
Yes,
And
bebin~
¬hor,
!Ian. tbre-.. it
'rrtq
( 1nd1011t-
on ~1e path,go1not etra1gbt
barrel
anl. b~
tbio
you ,,,,.,m!
thero
end
n little:
•aa abnnt 25 or 30 yards
to1mTd11 .,. •
it t owarcla 7ou?
Re threw
.A Yee, nir.
Q
~n th• gl.xle
at ..ne5
to tb•
etoole
cl.'><>r•
A Yee, t 1r.
:i •"s
the etable
J.
It
~
&adtho7 tried
0t:. J'OU
A
had noi
l
O!'
lrll&
door oloeed
oloeed
or looked?
I1, is Olien 1l1 the
-- ns1lecl. oloeect.
to op•n the
door
before
h• raised
the
g:,n
not!
I 1on't
think
opene~ the
'<'hfi e
A Close
the;,
h«d.
door ret.
....,r,tho
to th•
g1 rl• 1
atablo
toor.
"ilfen he tirut
r&1aod tho gw, tbey
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wt,en he t !rat
:,-"1,..l
the
i:un
on you or to tbe n\rls?
A N<>, e•r.
Cl lure
I did not.
wo
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A I waa not
quite
A
Twenty-f ve or 30 yards,
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25 or 30 7e.rde :l'ro• hia!
?ea. n1r.
'l
Did be ~"3 an7thlng
not sq
to ;you w?len he fir at r, isod
J<Jllf
Did 7011 11"7 lm,-thh.g
J.
llo, sir.
two or t
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'l I underat"l!d
hr••timee
t.llc,..u
He was tll1k1ng
to tl>e11 there?
"Get that
He aa:,s,
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a word.
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cunon
troll him!
J.
it
the
so""wber& along there.
About how tar
he repe~ted
r ieed
(indicotin,J).
1
A R• did
be !'irat
,·o thecorn-orilt,
'l Abont th a plaoo\
A Yee, slr:
i&Jr •••n
,.ou £ta..
to,
hoi-eo out of there
q1>1ok, • lUld
.
:vou or tho i;irle?
to .....
Ra meant for
z,ou to e117 that
me to
the girla
do
it.
the •table
wore at
door?
A Yee,
air,
Cl A.!ter
t.!utt.
he Bai d •Get the horao out there
quiolc, • an4 6!ter
the t,..m on you, •llm= m,,pene<1 nan!
he )"llleJ
A I
Q
I eaid
told
You told
the
the
girle
to take
girls
they
tho horse.
oould M•a
tho horse?
A Yea. air.
i
About boll !a.r ••r•
A ~~ent,--!1Yo
or thirt:,
'l You to'!.t! tile girla
:vou from htm then!
yards
when he firat
raised
the7 '1aul4 ha"fe tl>o horse;
the gun.
414 ,-ou
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Sir;
1 had noth1n~
I thought
g-.u, doim.
1
that
to them?
ie •ll
to Jot•nd
I ea.id.
"faA'!' the
tbe horao ou, ot the atall
the horae
he wonld talre ~ie
when :,au 8&14 to the 0ir~e
1'bere were 700 standing
that
oot?
on pioture)
.L 0-•t tht!1'e I 1ll41catlng
~ At the oorner
hor,se out.•
JIJ'Belt w1th "lid I eea~ he
if tbe7 took
the7 ooul<t take
I 88.id,
o~ the corn-c,r\b
libero :,ou seo thoso
1'hora
etloka.
are etioki•c
two atiolca
up!
~ After
7au
the
~01 •
to uko
i;irla
" :re at~n'11n~ here ne11r tho corn-orib,
J,.
to that
~hinc
(1nllcat1ngl.
plooo
Q
lir.
ell
ot t Ye minutea.
wos done in~1de
a11le2'-e -.:-,"'111.!
to him,
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and a.a
A!1.or :y-,u told
tho i,irla
er tho arple
tre•;
lfben I turned
to talm
do?
done ao qllici.
o.a I turned
et>?l'l
out,
Whllt did Vtlllrelt
wben he wes
Ea D>Ter etol'J'ed
the horse
The wbo!e
aruund,
urolllld,
tho horse
h., 06:;ie
right
be Shot me.
011t
and Jou
••ro
et,ma in• tht'r• at the oorni,r o! the oorn-orib?
erlb
A
I -xt•Tor IIO"'Tftd
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And be !ul I bean
A
Yes,
Q
You ea7 ,,.,,. t.alled
A.
I turned
Q
l)io
25 or 30 J'&r .la awe.7!
he hAd beo11 c or,tnc on 'UJ>th&rdi.
eir;
aro1111!
eroun~.
7ot1 atlllld wllero ;you were
or did 7ou oooe :!'urther
A I atoodrigbt
'l
l)td
I.
lSo, •hen
•here
o! tha
oorn-
down?
I turned
he ll!Ov& up towsrJe
1 turnnd
at the oorne:r
arollllll.;
I d14ll 't
■ovo.
:vouf
'l?oan-! lo was standing
et111:
ho hod gotten
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and waa ..t~lng
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Rad the girls
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The j',-ont 1'eet
at tho hess
l~ tte
etill
gotten
an.I. had h1e
tbe
or tho
horee
Both g:trla
stable
hlid bold
~orM.
Did ;,,, eo;,, aeytbing
to you,
t),eo f
Did the girls
a~l' !JlJy-
to 7ot1 ~ban, • tbar•
thlng
A
lfo. ot.r; no on-e.
ll
fillan did
A
The» 1 turned
'l
Can you tell
ho aho~t
7ou,
tb"'1T
aqu11re to him ho ehot
f'rom tnia
ploture,
the T'I0IS1tion yott wer8 1n at th6
A
srow:d
1,na
that
the j1117 to Jtno• or eee
to o'!:; I tu.mes
iD "' 1 I on11 tell
,.,,twhere
Niu,re v11n~e1t we when t.e tired
&
I w&e eta,,;
lng r1ght
'l
Rt£;hi near
these
fr>e
th1e
pietllre,
tlme he ehot yon?
!!1? wu eta!i-d inc r 1,th.t a1uare
to t.itl,
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or e,q,ll\!n
Q Oe.n you 1-:Jc:!lte an1 ;:>i>i.nte on the
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the wny 011t of tho
all
were out.
hors•
gm, Dl>•
you
T'!gt,t
., 1uare
you.
r.1ct°'..lrll !In A8 to eMble
w1r1
Wh•tt you ware aho~ and
the shot?
there,
r1s)1t at
this
,o.1ot.
(tnaio'lt1llg).
poles?
A Yea, asir.
v,nPelt!
l
Where •aa
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Ho wns si;an<1!.ng right
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Right whore that me~k ta!
A
Yoe, o 1r.
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You wore et,ind.1 ns up near
thoro
(indionttng).
the po tee!
4 Yee, air.
he 1':rom 7ou
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1 . BS aeven ;rnrJ.s. !mm him when ho tired.
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1'~ont7-0no
feet?
J. Yoe, air.
Q
Jl'ow, tbe ehot wae !ired
Wb8t hap11en4d attar
A roll,
Q
thia;
thn,-
" IIIOcant he~ore
!Ir.it
7ou were al>raing
'"""II tl'71ng
with
11., toll
etete
,ont.
trial,
~
w,awor
7ou ,rare a'bo .. t to hit
that
an4 that
>'ith a eurrr-oOilb
there
thtn.;s
Ilk 1"'
o~ coll!Ulal to~ de~enae thoy haYe tn!1oatel
7ou ••r•
le no
truth
in their
in ~t
toot11r,onr
6ll,
,t
out
tl:e
etoop1nt
tl:o:i In eo"'•
tl-e Jul"J' ,me'l.l:er or not 'I.hero is any tn,tb
truthhl
Juet
OIICO tn.
I wn.nt to
:far,
t.o iret a rock 8l><I <1ero abOllt to atll<e
A Oentleme~,
bot t•o
out tho Mo/ the7
7011 eo that
tlu,eo girls,
or 0110 of tt•••
&irla,
how 1t 0&11111
al>ottt;
ehot?
this
tl!lli:en the horse
t'ro~ t~e etatoment
that
to
he :tired
and you havo told
The
there
WIQI'
111 that
n•••r
, t tte
told
o-~llad
two thinge.
1011 are
i•tt1ng
,-,.,.to:,ao:1117quoet1on.
etr.
no truth
A
l!h.
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You d td not •~
tboo b. word or deed,
A ho.
at
and I w111 eek you to
too faet
a little
Thero was no
tr,;.th
In that
ot~tenont?
au.
lll'l,Tth1i.,g to tile
tlrla
7,u ,oado no attaok
or did not
011
,,., an7th 1ng
tbemf
a1 r.
A W!!ll!l: Ware you olooe
t~• cur17-oolllb~
IIT'n,
enough
w tl,e,o to hit
tho,:, with
: !o,
eu-; I ,.,.,, au ye.rda fr:>za the g<.rl
oloe!O enough 1:0 bl t thaa.
A ~W~n: ~:
b<e
~
rnt
tho picture~
I will noea it to ~ n,, a l tttle
or ,Jo ,-ca. wan~ to ec1> it now!
latter
• 1! that
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TH:l JUROR: I ~ant to s•• It now. (P1oture
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t1r
Jow,ho
hAI t1ro•
the
ahot;
imat
~, rl"
Oil the r1-
1
t ;~•1
•ert
Aft..-
out.
•d tlllren
etde
t~e hore•
t~t"
on out,
~! EO, t::.1 mt
tho
tw""t,--ono
'!'~et,
<>r ••••n
7arda
A
lie wna eeven 7,u,dll,
Q
'!'he atrle
~rur
tho
shot
abo-.e wlere
he waat
1
Jid
he
the
th•~
h1~ that
c >n:-4r1b
700
he
there,
a::,4 Vanl'olt
•&&
wl!en he ehotf
•ae -ru-ed etatte!I
beln& towarde the st~ble
8
tbo e-±rla and allot
Slfll1 trOIJI
hor e, the7
A Yee.
at11 he went Oil a=n~.
tt1a:!' ~all~.
II You ot11ta·! :,on wer• b•.ok tiear
out •nith tho
wh1oh !I a little
h1,;b•r
r. 001:e hioher.
eo bacl<
luie
1.n a atr81ght
ill th•
direction
ot the
bnro?
A .ie went right
tho rt&)!t o! ""'· 1
to th.e rieht
1n
nfter
to •~.o bo.re. I told
h~ _ot ou~ close
,w,
rm,:
•a•ll
•
juet
ng o'!' '"e 91'ot!
J.. To,
dl'u
ha)lpeno~
to Juro~.)
hMded
et:raii;ht
•fiBat
anc tun.o<I off
oorn-crlb
and. be- t·i.rned
and hn and tho itirla
he went atroight
--
tbe
torward
,;.oroee there
at>:1~ot ~to girln.
h&.1 t e l•or~•·t
fhe
.\
Toa.
el r.
l
Ee
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l~e.
81T • h•
~irla
NI ;o,n'!
Q D1i :,ou roll>•
A Jo.
etr,
}la~
tte
J'Gll·
h!1o or di~ yo,, nott
: 411 r.ot f'~l'l>c
hta,
littl"
to
a little
won+ in the d1 reotion
on ont arotu>d th" ~;,J')lo troe.
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o...-e
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:ro. e.1r.
l mo•e.1 do-.n betwee:,
of t.ha ,;a.r •n a:t1:•r
Cl llM
e·artad
A
lllld the corner
th• horee.
bo.,.•
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~!'~rs 1-1?!:·•'her. )"oa hollfl!'fl:1,
· ;ou are a
t-►.ie~
•9
or ti irt;,
~•nt.1-•1-.•
'.l lihat
;nlrd&.
414 he Cl\7 1n re0""®8e
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He d 1,1 not
'l
.o 4 7ou aallll en, atte"])t
A -o.
air,
U"l
11
to follow
I atai4
:,o~ at all.
a 1 4 8.?" be~auBe l kno• ha
hiJO th.et
at all?
hi•
1111uwent back 1A the
there
be g;u!.1.en. l told
h.la h, ..... a tbie!'
6.Cd
1AJ1 ..
Did you mw<o8n1 ftl~~h•r
A I told
to that'/
"ord.
-:: .. 1..,._a go b7
'J'llth ""'e!'e
~
""a:7 "1th
'bit t • ol~ 1>ath b-.el: or t l:e
Sir,
Q How 'ar we•o 10
nnd a liar
oorn-ortb
go\11;: b ,,.., towa!'dB 7oar
tbat
A Ya•,
t~.-
the
rtmiark •n hiaT
th t
he WIUlkeeping
little
whore dom,
there.
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4 1011 1111 ...,,-thing
A "!lo, e1r,
II t 18 o.11 thllt
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Wrs tha~ bot ye
A
~tt,r
th•
You
~M~
A
rurther
o.r
a. ... t
after
to llilllf
"89
S&id,
you were ehott
70 •
r.o turtler
et&tecent
to b1m!
!lo, sir.
Wt,i,t dld 101 d> then?
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I didn't
I ..,..nt ,10...n to
'mo"
,,,.r,;hlniJ
u .. h'>U8e
about
tt.
and told
l kne"
the
1 •••
111r1 I had been &hot..
ehot
and that
! e011ld tall.
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tbe
si,
-am
dootorT
,-p N'>d eoc 7=r
boraa
and 1<14wont 1•odiate17
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,.. 1fhen thta
llhot .-11.s !!red. w'he.t ef.tect.
ir any-. did 1t have
upon 7ou ~~~e1c~l17?
A It
lot
sort
o! bl1nde4
eome ;;entle:sen
ee. l ,hinl<,
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Q
•r.i••7ou
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the
Q
ttat
b&ra
I! ;on
~alt
di!
on
hu.
down !
to !all
it c~uso""'
to ntep ar>und
n
a little,
of
sort
,... " 11.ttlo.
oooeth'.nll
of th.et lc1.nd.
:J.-. llather,,y,
are there
IID¥ r:>¢l<s ln th1 ■ o:,ohs:-.1 thct
your
!.a i?:.•
ata.ble
but
etur,
"o, ~1' coiroft.
or, lCr. Renuoer 11•,~ V"'
!ire
1,
i~ •
A Yo, air.
bllnde,t
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Ther<1 1• co fence
stnblo
l&~d :nt,
1n the
:la out
!a that
Row far
around
tt;
orohBrd
stable
there
on! don't
JE"CB fr,:,•
lf1ne1"y-$lgl-t
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A """ ,;oln3 into
hove &Dy barn lot.
tJ, e bare
from the road "}ere
the
.re
70ur at!lble
ro&d.
would haTe to oo:oe t'hr,ugh
o.n"tbr011~b the oroh~r:l to the otable,
A. yes. a r.
~e
no bar?>7er4 there,
7-ur placoT
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there
oasa.1i b.'\Te gottAQ
any rooks
~~
pickeii
at •ll
.,,.
the
"0~1d he not•
on tho g't"DU~1 there
>ad l'"'- be6n i!.ee.ro-•
that
7®.
of ~e•t1ei;
ther,?
4. tic. etr.
op.
I~ la not
there
were no rooks
th..,r& tll.~~ ! coo ld h11Te p I ok1td
ro,1 •h IP":nn¼ 1>11t •t ta so.L.
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fte. ,., th~rtt- '1wJ'rooks there!
1
rte onl7 ro~k w)a or~ r..e~r ths corn-e~tb
l1"•" tbrawr: t,
tr :,ou waJ1tel to.
Aro •~_1,11 hur.vy rook'a?
an.! 10= could not
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the-,, co,tld
A l1J, e!r,
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h" ,..r.r II terr1bl.T
unleaa
coul!
• th
heTe been 1>6ad to stt".lke
C>"-ld t!>q
"'"ol: 'hilll wltb
t~•r•
Bot•·een
1e
~
is about
that
that
all
=
dawn 7ou
oould
le done
Q
:,oUI tr11nt porch
and
:,onr orc1tar!.
you b1ve eald
ta•4erT
A. :!e•,
sir.
la th1e
A :res, sir.
gerd<m enclosed
A Yt &, P1r.
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!hat
A
r
in a fenc~ or not?
1t la encl oeed.
ln 1rb!ol, garden
I underatand
roaat1nt
roroh
- 1! ehe r-~d i•er
list
ls now etsnd1na
of thet
oorn'
corn on June +be 29th,1919?
:;,11 certa◄ r.17, b,it
mm not tell
lndtcet1ne)
there
e:are.
w•o the el•e
high.,
by s,ooding
er.e eoulo
et,md1J:6
wae ottuliHn3 u;, ttnd oatr tte
!irst
-- but
ee>methi!lg lllte
th'\t
up aee oYor 1t r,,n., tt•
l!he •re
pa.rt o~ it~
down. 3he
nltting
n.nd she heard rrer,-thing
wse eiud.
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th.,..
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th&t
thea?
not h111'6been -used t:, at!'"ik• Atq ..·nt.
et011t :au,.
thel!.
r.J17bod;. •1th
j'O"l!"
,:,! tt"
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l"O'lil "1t,,,<>et down to the
nn&r t t.. Jhflre. 8.N
HaT~ 7?n az~
van-ol"t
.o l
1Tdfl
Le,e, ne.i-~bore
J60 yd.e.
iR
step o4 it 7eet~rd•;,.
A 2?~athl:og
like
300 _yde.
it
o~a
tho
hm,...,?
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ar1r.ln4 7ou..r t~o.a• t~are,
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d~ee lee l~T• .,,4 in erhiah t!ir~otlon
ena:t!: woet ai,4 between t'>ree
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oloeo
?"tI~9
n~iae?
·, re~P.1 v • d tha
""Jt th· t you
Van Felt?
h◄ o gun as
wt;.•ch
t~ld
tile 3irle
~o take
el-O$£
EOon E.S t'"'t ...orEa C""--1:le
oat
~a 41d n~':; c:i;.e :!or t!';e horee
1191?... t ► 4 rnnc
wter 70'4
s!J: •
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who 11ve
et!'!Jid!~g t~er~ ~nd
.,,how.
ur
e"':ire
y,u-da further.
&eTentJ-!ivo
r1g~t ~r~and k74 ae aoo~ n..s I t~rne4 eo n..&4
tu~ce~
• t, I!
• want
girle
w,:9
'"e WJt,ld fr!l
■ table. te
!tft;r
h VO ham-d my b~tsterous
Q
It ts t'at
b] t.,.Me.
hio ho.laov
t.n
s~1e~r.ore ~et~eer
l
1s "" s,-..jler
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live
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of tre
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to, u
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tto.ble.
tb~a for
'll'S?'PI
o! t~e
bet
r.eYeral Teue.
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ru.t\e no ti'l.ree.to::r"r: • r.ot-i :m • b:r tl rolflni;
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a "·orral
l t i e r.ot roo~
Mr. Van ?elt
I ilnese
to 1nd1.cuto
ehot •.he .. tnens,
li;.nn.
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nl,i.ooe
wa& 1n •
:.:r.
3trlokler
.,;no rn,•.i;lites
boa Va!'\ belt
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at.
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w""ld d•op hla cur
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to ~1:e
'ffere tn t~ci t1ie ~oaitior
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to r:o b t• r.o rr c
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h!"ac.nc! 1'aclne
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he d'dn't
but
t'•
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rii;!it
t,., bullet.
hi= he
l to!d
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th~t
'l'he J,J·lto,
:t
I lf'ill
t~
tw~ tbince
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to kno• v~at
wore true
1,te.o ::-"'gb't i Ol"l.
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two things
9
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tllk.~116 'the gun
r.ur..•
Md ell e heu.rd. it.
\: at waa true,
a1c1n•~ lm01< ,.hothc:r
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.t '?'ll: tcu1t2i!'!7 Mr,
;,,:.t
tbat,
'!::i.lce ttJt..
k"?W for CBrtnin l'fhet~or
in,;
the u1:-1s
onl~
3~ •h•-nga
owor• ~• only
I wwt
n~G id.owr; there
whee &he 8'•t do..-... on
evsr;,t
t!
gix-le
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Js11-tri&l.~a~d
tt:ey ob!octed
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d.td tho!'
A 'I:h'J.7 tola
I dan'
ar,d the &Irle
t~o
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your body but ector,4
inio
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•"!'l-.tn
70"
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rood
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r not.
e~e oould
en~
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hour inc
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a•at .nee o!
U'.ere •
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to Van "el•
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r.,r~ ttttn lltier. he !!rat
on me bllt to go b,,ok.
lur> no1. t., ti"011p0Ps
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;vill
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h3 '""~- <O\"'-Or
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c.nd he -wtmtet! -to
bl"ot,s
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3ot "Wf!.Y h,.fore
th&t
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a:,,nr1;thir.g
mlla.&ac c.
Withou•
got h">r-:e. .He tu.ken
of th<) oorn p .. tch """ he promised
th& hl1t.1loa b alt •"~
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wl\81'1 :or:. ,.....~e nwrq :r'?'m-:hor:.e
th•
tof"·
ile did
,,.er the fonoo bat not. the blao.e~.
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be t~.P~~ Ml.!
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brL,&
t~
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•..no o-.er,1i, in& c,!f
of ,uet.lo
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bu"t h.b.ve tha.t cane ou.t anli
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I Mok ~r.d forth
bav• .
"er~ t;he7, na,,e t!,e,.T
PlOTTiO h&8 bean to ~~r rl&ca ··•~r-1
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abe
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Juet
curo
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eboot1ny.?
bti '":)re the
tho 4o:, La!orc
the cbootlng.
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l'!Be
A Jb, ~1:, I -.3' n~t.
Tl?q l!IIJ' r.; ,r:trl • ..., up at lire.
1
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!li}l0?" u s:w t?ld. ler I •oo =.d or grett.,. ana17. but 1,~re 1.n
a wor,1 iir truth
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X Yon wo,-o conteutl
1
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llo, I
wl or•
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I went west or
X
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?'ro hui:ui.red .. .,4
on the h!ll.
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a r,-11 do~n o.nd ;iod
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7ou ~&?e
i o rix
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sir.
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t;i,-a~.
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that
h~nftn 1 o•er
~~e hill
tb,st
!enoc
I
W&nt
ovar to ~
r•. 'l to tho fena~.
t
hut
r,orning?
towur18 'lfr. ~111er's.
that ~Drt1ng?
r1t~7 ,-ar,1a acroe_e th&re,
but
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and 'there
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n
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vi~re thiev~a
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'.lp ii: , our
wlolle I ,... 11,rn;y
o•t u mn,:•a
no1ghborlJ'
an,t liarn
Wl1'1·:J c!ow:n tt-.ere?
co i.~d tnlrc ~ D'l:llr! Off' rq lwid
tron
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whores?
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t ,rn3 ~t,.,.
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boon oho~ It Will•! MT8 stfeoted
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li.n!
lend,
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Jn tho ffl'GDb"".
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to tb!•"'.1 co-,r~
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out there?
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hapner.ol?
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told
tho oirla
a::4 ! turred
his~=
storpod.
but l storpe~
to tr1k"" the horso,
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'le
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little
lherq"
n11i! t►" horse
.e -:?!er ae"Ven stopu
bit
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woe C0!tl1ng ont.
•ro:, oe •Jni had
up
on th•.t
te l<'t
hP 1a bl1""?d n.nd o ...1!),.,,lP': 1 ..nd Cl)uld
not
oee.
but
he
o~nl~ eea ~nc.ho nhot ~or ~urdor: he shot ~a:- the hon~t. Gentle~cn;
that
te w•.at I thir.l\'.
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ln one e;et
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noboa,y oworo or called
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t.~EJCto tu.k'e tho hQreo'·
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from
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a J'evt rookc
in
t "e c"!" tt:.,rd.
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TP:.'! COURT: Il0"1
v:~
a rrtvste
injurj be b·a a
t.
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bS
to l>Gltlc
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in oourt
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for
h!t.'tte"'Y •
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the at,.ble
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L~cro •
,+.,c-n:"'\ti ;.}t. nut. tl or-,?
ba:ve the J/or~ oron
tho~
m>t the
t l::r.->'i•1.1c!
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t.
to do ,h
it
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to lb•
8:1de o""' 1:11 corn-cn·1b.
:! Ynu t!'iftd
I
to
r
revert
no d.ld net otter
t},er. fr')m O,:HJnitit: t.)')e-1lJr":
to :tee ,.,,, roolc on tt-em?
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Yo,:, <iid not awe-,:- at tji~se
A
"io ono swo,-e on th-,
t~ro
no rook there.
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ground:
g~ound; not ~ne o-f thet11was o~lled
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llh orae"'
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groundj
t,a did noL o~ll
or"d&m
Hrs.
gi rla
.ml c..J.l tl:es,
not AD
r..z,:ee!
ont:h w,ie sworn or the
~"bitoh-~
Kei97 or
ise
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Vsn Pelt"
'oi'tohea"?
do no1. 8WH&r.
no ono.
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you no one a.wore on the
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t".)
rot
to atrHro
"lf the
or
one
Bt'll,l!!!
then
w1th " roo1t?
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down to th•
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thare
I n~Yt.ir 111.,vope.:
at 611.
t•Ollt'~
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t ,,non lla ;3Lot .t·ou?
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t.11
woe not?
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r.:ot 1,rotte for
ic t,,.ro
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a• id
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at"1tdi:n~ Ufl and f,.o1ng
1 t nit
gla.nottl
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tho Do "'e •1nd t-fl-u.,1"' o~f'f
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of
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t"'iio of the
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the direct
ox.;.m1.ne.ti on o~ the Wi tnefJt1 WttGt"c~U!!ledby Jr. O~t ro foll0~3;
;·v.,rt'>r in h"o Ol't'HHl er•<..r..m.in.o.t1rm
Elt'rB8B"l4 the frot
;L.. J-:Court
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thA,.. 7a:! di\
n">t tell
.ar. Vn:ii ..,alt when he cf~o
in
there
th.at
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here
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th.1.a .,ae•:
t.o :Lr. 3trickler
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I will
the
h'!d n~1d :rou
!1Sk l''T.l ~ie
"!~11tea 1 11 att.o.rnay
elr.
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and cr,:rro::d::e
yo't
1,.h1t
ot th1e osae e:t,(>Ut thBt?
in oharir•
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o! that
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I pit}' hi~ l!tile
0t,11u.ron • .'.t.,
eny feel\n~
sbout h1~ et a 1,
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Yeo.
Oir.
w ■
of your !)1\y
f k'!OW
tio
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n 1, fll:lti t.o
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I want to s.sk you n further
tO
etrte
a3ntr. just
<tUeat1on.
1-.nwbAt ~oa1~1on you ~ere wh,n llr.
;roo.
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I turned
right
I did not underat,nd
otra1ght
uro,md.
1 ••,..• :;ou ~urntn.; ea V<lll Pelt ahot you?
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e,iuttrely
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You had l'lre c4;, r.nd were •~"n,11,:ig
1n :!'ront o~ bt.m.
e u.ar• 1n ~r•nt
I was at~d1ng
hnve the ~iotu.r•.
~
him.
rou oorreotly
I underetrn!
I!
:;ou were e:t ndinG H'bout where t!'.!eeie polea
A Yea, sir,
he ohot •·
er•?
t• Bo atiok•·
wae et,nding
Q And Von P•lt
roint
here whero this
1a on
the di,sg?'-"' Qr ~tctur•?
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1even etepa tro~ ne.
3;' :J:,o lo'.te~
or. the picture
A
?el~ ~as ata.nd1r~ and B 'lfnere ;o~
pullei
hie .;un ll..!ld ehoi,
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I turned
ie
•are
1r.A•aato~ ir.o:-e .,..,,
$~Md1~e:
now. wher. ba
did 7ou turn•
~round
s!ter
he ohot.
rt oort
or blinded
me
and a'tlln:"'.Od ?°'O.
You ~uTned ~round?
A 1ee. e~r. I turned arounQ.
WE. ll!ll:4l-;R: You turned
When nnythu:i; l Ute tbs t bl 1nda ,au
t,TOQlld a 11 ttle.
Wltlll'JS":
to
when ho &hot ::,,s,,
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Whllt
C~llocT: You :::e·,: ,o~
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et"lraer•d
ll litcl«
I tarnecl. ,,rour.d th_.,,
11ti1e
o!tr
bit
~ar
b• abot co.
OJrJ!.'I':
But not before?
1n::!!J!!.;S: Yee. air.
:; turned
before r wus eh ot.
COU.,T: You were f"oi~
nround
f
,oini; hin
him wh111 he uhot you~
WI'l'lillS~: I told th<> girl a, I •~ a, " Tl\lre tho
hOrsa 011t." l was .!'q.0,1nr,t>:e g1't'le then, t!nd
T tu,-,,ed sro11nd and u.a ! t1..~ea ...,..,, n~ fnelnu
hit'J he shot MO •
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,,.,rntrg c cioc♦ c.t b. .;o, ;rou ae!"a 9t z:..1.tn,c:
■ 'fll ~$1:; .,.,o-.r...:r.V.wl Tt.elt.
!l'lT!l!SS:
h1".
l ~rned
.\ft.,,.
•ram ~ho 1lrle
I
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ce4
.tr.cl wh«:'I yo~ ,ere 1n ~h, t rioeitior
'::IE CJ '1.?:
he
eliot you?
l'iJT?I--~:
,
root
?Then l
w•·• in
When 7ou turned -.round !acmg
line
ft
to 7ou OT
?r.
one
tllat
Jloalt•cr.
~r. Vur. ~elt
he •hot"'"·
waa he on~
di-
Ide cf 7ouf
lie wou In neur17 a dlreot
lino.
Ju•t •• near na I could
;;et tt.
Q
\\'a& be or w.,11he not
A
Ho. sir..
be
w~•on
to the
ove,. tekr
aide o~ :,ou Whnn he ehot :,012?
In a etre1 0ht lino
to me,
sou ti\ of ::ie.
,
od ,on
Th• Court h~• ••eked :;ou "hether
he llae 41reo♦.ly in front
nnd I ,inderatood you to •"I os neer a• ;;ou osn c,~e et it
he w~s !r. !r?nt
A Yes.
o~ ► .o~
a!r.
o• I u1-rned aro~!
•e-r,e ; o TS o e c.nothar.
~H! cOU:t~: I think be hAo 1ne eTa t~
nd as 1ef1n1tely
"" ;ou C'lll •~.eat
o.,. O!"?,
further
nioture.
Tl!}, COU T:
! would
because
~
r -tt
ne ~r·:..nkl;
hlm t~ do it.
lilre to lnve t I te th 't n little
of cert -tr. f•iot11 ch•.lwn b}~ tbo
Go ahead.
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WU atandutg
A Tes.
~t
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Th!.t i.8 co!"ract
A
Yt'l!I,
1 s it?
air.
!,nd tru.t
wse tl:e poe1t1oL
thnt
he ""•
in m,d :,oc ..-ore tn
wh•n ho o!lot :,r,u. 1
A When 1 turned
aroun~
I was :rsoing
hilo.
aw"1
tho horse,"
and
1 turned
trom tho gUla.
I told the girls,
: snid, "Tr,Jre
n.round square ti> Van 1>elt tho girle
NO!"e aoT1nc
a I tul"l)ed n'!'omld to hi"' he shot n,e.
c.e I turned
horoe, ,-~4
'l
I! thnt
your position
'"'"
were :,ou direotl:,
t1
e
in fron! o1'
him,
'l'KE OOlr.!'o/lrt
:\
~e
bOdy ,-.r,una
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, 1ueat1
I turned
Ol'>
of how :'.r,r hia bod;, WBll turned.
er..""bod;:
W'\.S
turned.
! turL.ed ?I:;"' !eet
alJ\
to h •, .
':HE COO.:-,T: 'iou were fror t ...nt hi
t I) ~·.
'! You ea 14 th1 t
~hex: I turned &!'Xi..n we were 1 ..o 'r:a-eaoh
, ltko that wee e etrn!~ht
line tbore. It
e!t,l:t hnve boon that much bent !roo hi= ovor to
,,.... It. 10ti;ht hive b•en a etrB1i;ht lino.,
_t
e!,;'ht t-.nTe been o'!-" - ""it~lo.
,lTJ :e:
ot•er
Sl!a~3~:
6,11
~
It oight
h~ve Ta.riod ~o oo~e extan!,
LOt r~e1--:-iT9 ab,ot
CJ::.::·:
~
tat.
course, J:e o,"1.d :z:,t be .
.I:. • 0 !Y : 0 e ?""ts:'
::.17 •
lt wea
A
Ul
,11 done '.!.r. e.n inetrmt,
do"':e 1ne1de
Wi:neon
~,14
::1!""1Yeninutes.
to etn:>4 nside.
w-..s 1 t ::ot?"
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Bd1th l.tntheny,
aworn.
c; Ya:, •.,-e Silla ~1th
te•t1fiad:
!at1'en7,
a dsu,~hter
o!
Jooepl':
c.
Ltothel'l7, here!
y,.u, a· r.
A
OI! tl:e d.~~ :it' tt-..,a ehooting
whero
1:tle:-e ne.a.r ;ooar bol.i.ae
were you!
on tho !rent
A £1t~1,v.
!l:, tto
porch.
:,ot• 11-.0 1n ,.ook1r.t:h""'
I t~.1nk of it,
""-7. whilt
Oount1
ehoot1n& took place
Thie
•
<.r: :,ooltl • gba:i coont,?
Yes, etr.
•
••r•e1tt1.cg
,
Ymi
A
Yee,
Q
.:>id 7ou •••
~te r,ad
o~ 70 r tr:>r.t
porch'!'
oir.
:?J.i:. V,,n :'el t t<t>d hie
two 11'>'1,;htere oo,,,. np
~?lat 4£77
A Yee, air,
'l •here did 7ou tirtt
A
!
soo thoo?
u1r the!< cosini; "'
:he ro'\4 11.lDOat C:1rectl:;
1n :rent
o:! the }nuee.
'l
Dtd thll'
A
!lh 7ee.
JI"••b;t
yc,:r b0t1a1 before
th~
got
to the
nu ble?
The; o,.,,, b;, your honeo?
A ,assea or:, bj onr houeo.
Q
'1 !l1i. 70
A ao, air,
'l
r.ot!.oo 1thetber
VhT'
:'elt
Md. a JUll ~n hie
I did not.
You 41<1 r.ot not!oe
A :lo, air,
whethoc
he lu.4 or not!
bud?
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wae your roth•rT
He WBO bo.dl< at the baok door.
Q
At the
Q
towards
•here
A Yes.
air.
'l
~•
Did
'fou told
A Yee.
:
!tter
I told
him that
,,.n
A
z,.6,
I juat
air.
there
r•a!n
a!:
at the bot111•!
I went on be.kl< ..,,4 • t down ,,n the rn,-oh wJ,e,-e
Yea. air.
I ""'" botore
to !?'-• ba!"IS.or l.n tt-.e 41rect!on
eir.
Did ,co
.\
he went beu,l< at the boaae.
~,1 t • a there?
thee t.o went on d~
bla. 1D 'bat rigbtT
st
bia
told h1= th~• were com.Ing In the bere.
him 'lbe7 were 0~!11'AI; in ti:• barat
air.
Y0<> told
,. 1'ea.
houa•!
7our poai t1on whoi, ;you anw them going
mo-re tron
the at bl••
A Yes, e1r.
'l
the
b"ok door ot tbe
J told
ha.
1 '!Oil sat d""n on the !rant porch!
A Be!ore I a1<t down I aaw the 51rle
come on to th8 st bl•
loor.
the
~
!ownrd•
!
Yes,
air.
th•
BL6ble doorP
I eaw them bronl< ot! the board
that
w,e against
door.
:? ':'bo,-e wore • o,uple
or pi•o••
up o.g 1c3t the dool'T
A
Yes.
Q
\
You aaw thoo tnl<o those down!
Yes. elr; ant thon r eut down.
I,
l)1d ;;ou ho,u-
A All
air.
""1of
t hO tl\llt
I honrd wc,a when
~
to get ' o,,t o.nd otop tr•or11~01ne; •
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rather
that
too 11:p 1 ,.oo out thor•~
1:01. un there
ho to d thol!l
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TQU horu-d bl•• 81\7 to tho.., to cot
A Ye~. air,
I heard
r
hearl
Van !'elt
remember how orten
~
•l••?
aa:,:t,.lte th11t horae ont
I don't
he 8'114 th.'lt more t.ha.n once?
ta d!d .
0
•
llid you hear
A
:lo'
tho
5!rla
ecy eri:,thing!
atr.
_!lid you hear ...-.y load
A
nlok,•
he repeft.1.td it.
l>o you r,~.,,,.bor shothor
• I th1nl<
trotrpllils1n,;T
thAt.
Q Dld you hear anything
A
on t and atop
tlllltlnsf
!lo, etr.
'2 1>14 700 bea.r ""7 ewur1n.;?
A : hesr no aweor!ng ht all.
A
'.
!lid 70,,. i-en.r the trJn go 1>'!f
i~. alr,
I did not,
he O'ljele ho::,o'!
A
l gueaa 1t .....
I\J.l OTO:r
'
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:!lid ;you f ,theT
oo-"'• 'bc.olt to the house!'
'l
A
still
flTO
11)
mlr.utee.
Yea, e1r, ht aMo b11ol< to tho houee.
!lid you not1oe trhothor he
woulded!
ae 8a I a he wu. l didn't Imo~ It Tllltil
s tting
.
.,...
an the }'oroh when ho "''""-' arouz,
llaa thoro
A Yes. elr,
an.;, oigne
'1f hie
being
he told ""'.
nnd told "'"·
wou~a•4 ~hat
7"'
I w~a
osw?
1 Wh~t wws ~hat?
A I •nw where be ,r•,e ehot;
hi&, 8hirt.
the
•1 Tell
blOl)d.
tho
j,1r7 llbout
ho w,.e bleed1r.it,
tbo point
·in hie
blood
was on
bod7 wh&ro you saw
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"
on the ooUur
bone.
Booe ~he~e on th•
•'
42. --
here
4
eoll-fll" bona?
Yes, a1r.
So, you heard
There
A
I oerta!r.17
So, if there
abuelTO
'
raet
~
lang:,.oge,
I oould
l hoard
an7 sw•~ring;
Q
it
n.t all.
h""•
hollrd
1t from whwo
,r11e
a.n;, .,,.,,.,.ing
or en;rth1ng
munt b,:\va been said
•ory
thllt
plat nl:, and I could
ther,
7ou -were?
co11li1 h.6.Te.
have 114ai-d w,ything
ver7
at all?
h•d been doing loud t,,lkin 0 or loud ,woar-
father
7ou could
and no ewaartng
talking
~1,1sno P•uring
• lfyour
ing there.
no loud
h"""
low,
waa said
of th~t
k'nd,
18 th"t
right!
tboi-e.
\ll
hoard U there
an;y
tho
>,,.d been
waa none.
You d:1" not hear the gun go o!t.
you eq!
A llo, air.
Q
Old
you see tile 6"n at any tiM?
A
~•.
etr,
'l You "'"
A Ye•.
not.
I did
them e;o baok d!>,m tb•
i-olil!•
sir.
Q Did you see tho gun then!
,
llo,
oir,
I hd
not.
You did not know whethor the:re w11e ""Y eun thore th1,t had been
ueed lliltil
after they went bock down the rood?
Q
A
1 b:ew :It.
~
D14 the,
I nokon,
co do.,,
ae tter
••r•
th& roa(. borore
et ..ning
down tl:o ro1>d.
your rather
went baok to
the houeo?
~
when h•
~
l don't re~embor.
ot1.00
I guees the7 woro juet
aboQt tho bars
to where I wan.
Ila¼ the vro,,elt otock ~een troor.Ma!ng
on you throur~
thle
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atu:mler?
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, Yee.
another,eoMettmes
their
I ha.i run a~!
11-!r.
thr,,•
cow beoo.ue•
a do;,.
tioeo
oo-. Ju,ct one !1me atter
their
I was continllhlly
1'ollow1ng
l ln,nw 1 had to.
~
Yoar ~£tber
• e ~o~ at ~a:::.a &r!na
~
!Jo, air.
i
Who composed you.r fathor'a
the.t ti~eT
thor•.
be "n.e not
!8.J:lily while ho w,R awa~?
A 3o one bnt i,croel!.
Bnd your rather
bis
stock
prior
in on bin
with Mr. vanro1t turning
hen nny trouble
or letting
hta
etock
?'\ID
1D on hill,
in,
that
to or before hie going to Jouth C,u,olln~?
A Yen, air:
"'" bud trouble
On the $unda7 that
the horaf'I ,".'ot ll
A
hn~pened,
whnt tlrno
do 7ou reonll
after
I on.me hoae fro~ churih;
I dor.'t
what time it was.
remember Just
It mtst ~~•e
t.een 11 o 'o-. ")Ck or lf
o'cllCl:!
I cn~ua ;,oa
about 11 o'olock?
A lie juet bad !lunde7-cohoo1
,
th1a,
7ar.r smsture?
It waa directly
had church
thi•
bet'ore
Wheu 7ou ca.mo b~clt
that
d",11withont
~unday-a,ohool
fyoi,
prei.ohing.
th• horoe- was
-1y,
tbe
raetur•?
A
roe,
air.
Q You ecy that
A Yee, "ir,
your
father
put it up•
he toot t1'e hor4e UJ>to ~he st,i'tle
eeo hilll 1mt hi0 in there
but I raw bun to.Jro 1t u!) .
.._ Soma ate.tenuint has bean made in retorcnce
alle~d
to ban
not
l>Jld I dld
that
been 111\deb7 1~u u ;o"1' "other
411.7and th•,t you wero tellinil
people
they
to a otatea&nt
'"'"
had better
np; 41d rou make o.n, euoh etn tolll"ot as th~t !
in a =se
put
their
tll.:>t
cows
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ho ""•
tlm~
acme ono to keep
1l: a r-a.,e or ~l:il:g
""Bth•
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Th t
A
!lo, e~,
be •..a q11iot.
dinn<'r.
t'.e
thAt;
spoke
croee -.,.,,-4 ...-,4
to AbOttt it.
to the
i bad kno"
He
dinner t&ble
It m;ynel:!,
thoro was no trouble
lle had not mtide mention
Von Pelt horoe u~?
l Ho never ,..,,.edit
n•v•r
while
the
!or
ho atilcl
between ua, not one
to you that he hud put the
ho wae sitting
~t
the
teblo,
p~eaed n word abont it.
~hnt w~o 7our father
A II• was o•crr;lng
~
n~t
~ere
fJU
the
•
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.r.>ckkc
~
\t
!iret.
I did
Chllir •
ti~g?
OT re!id.!11;.
;,. l t.OL't. ree~er.
Q y,., aP
th.., aamir.i;
A
suw the Vtul ~elt'e
t~era.
7~'J Wr.:rt1nJ
•r•
an.d
wl-1!:J:h?
41d r.ot recognise
lhen yo~ d~4 recogr..izea
.\ Yu,
-:.he~. ! bel1evef
not.
the
-:JO":. o.Ja.DUJ"t!oated. to
tJV\t ~bey were there?
f&ther
o!ll!le?
boree .
ore . o .. riso.d!.n.; or 1fl'
A ! had a letter
~
do1rjg when Van ?elt
4o1n3 Khan j?U !ira~
o:n.-tr.· al:m · tl:e rau.iY
A St t, ~ \r;.b dO"lrn'!.n
'
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not
g.
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efl7
ra ..e tttat da;,!
i.
I wouJ.d not h!t'fe known thnt
e~o•l't
not ouu wora obout it.
th
!le Jid
r reoO!?!lberhe o~e
wao ln the a• ble.
hor••
b12t l .i.U not
o:!' u:e l<iD~.
neighbors
oroau that da7.
w,d a11t down ond ate
oo·•- up,
:!'act, •as ;,our :!'r.ther 1n
there were two 11fforent
,ra n't
their
sir.
:
!hon what 41~
;ou do?
A
I aRmo OL b6ok on tho !rant
porch
than.
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Q Did ;o~ rooumo Wh6~ ;ou b 4 boor. doing l>a!ore or not'
A Yee. e1r. after I ant down.
(l !e thbt a piotuTe,
fia• Matheny. of tho athblo un,l corn-crib
A Yee. air,
~
ta a!tuat,e
Your h~e
II
th•r• 1a
prden
u• ubout here
(Indionti1J6.)
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A
Yes,
111th a rence =ound
!•'roi: 'ho rorch tl:ere how tor
ore ard h•r•
or to 'be corn-oribT
~~n 1 ~
do you ea:, it
ta up to thie
re~e~ber.
• re~ you
■ tbnd • .n_gOb
at ~ho et blet
A I could at ~~at
7
see Yhat
r poroh
ta goir.c n:. tl:!ere
~
tiru,.
n. I undoret@d you to
'ro1:1 where :,ou wore eittir.c
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1t thgt coi::e•
u1r.
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• L"J• ( Ind!.cut~r.c.)
eyer th!B
etr.
leo.
',l
little
e.uy that 70a did not tteo U'/17d~~icult:,
on the i,orch
but at tho rolnt
whore
JQU ;,ere eitt!ng
you heft!"dpe~aona t lk1ng 1n n ~oderate tone or
v~ice
Ii.., • -:he et3.ble; .raa thor• acy di.i'..,~oulty 'lfhe:-e ;-ou we!'o
e1tt~;
!rrr 70u to bes.r ...&raone taUt'1"'£ ~ ~ c!tde-ra.·o t.tt.e o•
T01ee nr ~t the atsble?
A
'?'hOl"O w "18
no't.
ion h&ve otfted
Vnn ~< ~o ~ot otf
that yoo hoard
,114 not
hie prealeta
r ~ather
~01
n ony to :a.
to treapc,o~?
,\ Yen, e•r.
Q
'.%!.d
tm..~10\l he!l.rd. h1.tl e17 !'Jore th 0 n ~nee.
"1;et the- hors.•
o-J t 4.-::.!clr:"'?
A
ree, a tr.
l Bllt that :,oa did not hen:r the &hot?
A Jo
Q
VM ~elt
,\
ll1d
•r,
I did
not.
:,ou hear IU1Yfurther
or by iour
.,. he.:-!
tt/\tement
to.~d.• either
1ather?
r.othtni;
unti,
a!"i:•r the ehootint),
b; :b".
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Q
lfbnt
Oa-J ;i':>t: did
tho ehootina?
414 7ou he'll'
n,t
hear tho
'11"to?- t!>e al\oottns;
ehoJ':
I und~?"at<>od
:,a
to
, I CO\P It w e t't•r
tho ehoot1 ni; b,c ..usa fo.thor N " oo:.i •-e
down tte r..a.~h. t)-en .. ! d1,. i:at ?:en:r ttie Ghat bl.Jt ~ know 1t an.a o.tter
tho a hoot'"-!·
l!r.
... .Did ;roll heor 'lnY !'u.rt~er !'•~rk
t'h.t.r. •1-.at you b:'lvo to1d
~trloklor
you h•o.rd; thtot le ~'ult 1..,, 0ettinC at.
A Not lllltil
ehoottna-
be o..i,,e dowr the ra~b.
b80-',UO♦ the7
l'lhAt • ·r took pl!M>• h~d tuen
et1 rtod 4o,m t>ie ·'llthr'
Vet
•
•~•
'el!
a.ow it
w,e 6~t•r
th•
w•re c ,~◄ r:J out.
Q
A
1
1e:,,
olr
'114
you he"1" 7our !'ather
plao•
~!ld yonr !rtther
s•17 !'ID;;tl:.ir tt to
hnd
Van "oit
or
s •:· t.n,;.·tJ:iLg furtl'!er
A
A!'ter
'l
Yoe,
.,
'.."ter
to 7ou.r t..tbe-rv
dOW1ltho p th!
ho ot.d,ted
h• et•.rtod
no ewaRr cr.g.
do,rn the
""th
! !>e.,,-d nac•thini;
but
Q Toll tho Jur, thsn •x~otly w~at it was, OTCn thou:h
Do no: 111<0 to uo~ tho l11ng,ago.
/. ! t,eBrd hlt" toll h1r.,, I dOll't remember Jusi s,mctl;,
wn.e, bu~ eocetJ-,ing
~
lbo
.1
Ft.tt,er
ueid
ebout
runn~n.s
Ii
whor• hou..a, do\tr,
th•r•
,01l
how 1t
there.
Lt, .t?
•~ld
that.
Your rnther
snid
aomot.cr.8' to VIIU:l
"'elt a.bout
!"1.1.:t!lieg
o where
bonae ~~wn tr.er•Y
A
~
Ile did.
D14 ;-ou :r~:hor
au:, ,,nyth1ns
-you reac.bot!
A :'h•t ia •11 I oar. r""'""'b"r
,
else to Yr.
th"t
wna en1d.
Van
I'olt
th. t
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T
don't
lcno• lfhLt broaght
up but
tlv,t
t!t.'lt
ia till
I a,u;
re.,..mber.
A ~~ 70,.:, re~o~ber whether yo r father cnlled V~n ~elt an;
~<Wt.~e
o~ ~~et~e= V'll: ~el' ~·.J.led h1~ 1.r.1 r.11eea j~et arte~ or
juet
,.boc t
bo~!"lre the reark
A
I d<>r't
<J,l•erunning
of a wl-.ore-h'lll-ee~
roir.eobor hoarlr, s on;-t!llr./l,
1':W COlf'n"' Ji
- ,n hear
·•trie'let
be•rv
v.t'
••n:tone
liara'"P
tJ 1-;;anything
t;.bont
l)o
!!!::, CO~i:':
YHI.
-,lT":1£. : ,. ac.
g-<3\ng to as: 1 C!4 !'or I don't
!!Ot.
re!"lel:lbera
Do ,o~ eoe.n ;vou d.o not reoolloot
i!lr.t!
'l!TJ!..;5:
1 11·1-r:
't e~actl
re:-,,e:be-r ao I ac. !ua~
go ns to leave th 1 ne it 1& for l o,~ not be
poelt\ve
b0'1t tt.
'°t
I ondere~'Uld
you ,,re '!lOt ""081t1T•
'l.'heth•r
10"J.l"
•
.,_~r
O~llod Van noit B th et of liar?
A Do, ulr.
'l
.1,tle
..i&then;
ever
I am not poaitiYe
wore llYin(l
70
tb~ro
o,::.e dowe and ees1ut
A Yee, a!~.
about ti
It.
by your
cl!
did !b'. i::dfSlir
7ot1 in runnir,g
I h ~• aee~ ti~
tho~e oti•~-
l
W~• ..:r. Vewto~ C•rr7 eTer ~bout the rl•o•f
A
Yea.
y::,. •~on
j?•t
u1r,
He W'ls.
CP.0~
i!l:.....,11 ':'I).,
-i"-!'!'st
et ,r th•
3lr ·Ji,
V~Y:. ~,1t
e.t)?'r"in,~.,
A
Sitting
!
Howaloao •~e th,t to tho
ho•,. no
! do not kno-w.
A
the place.
on tM
fr,nt
poroh.
!IJ'!':.!X!I.
-.::r3
1trle
:u.d !Ir.
Y-a.n elt
th11ot-
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Ae
!
as from here
~Ill'
'1c~. further
A
tht>n t~ t,
Yem wero 1tt nl1.in
I:
\
I
4
.,
acrosa
thia
roomf
( 40 feet
sight
o! the
l
!'0:.1cl
.wero :ot1 r.:it~
W!i..8•
!oc. ,ro:-e in p!.~1.J::rt.e• o'! theroU
and hts t•o d•UBhtere wore Jom~f
A l cer: \.t~:11 • a.
l ll~d yo h'ld dinne:- nt thn t ttm•?
A Y. e, 11tr.
X You a 7 1our r. ther .. t •h• dlnr.er
the ~oroo?
\ Re di4 not: tbore •uir.•t
• · ·hen did you first
loam
\
l
.I
lhat
u~ wtiot
table
:..r. Var T.elt
did no; cent 1on
a w~rd ~tl.B90d about t~~ horse.
tht>t h• hnd locked th~t horu,i ur?
~• hlm ;iJce \~ .
tl..,e
Q'
the do; w•e it
t~.rt
~ou went u~ to i.r~.
:
.ylor'af
A In the ~!ternoon
•
l
Th•-::tti~
A
J>lrootl1 P.fter dinnor •
,re 7,n r.nd tba Vs:, olt'a,
:I
terms!
mo.
!
-
be or: ;so,d
t1'e V,;,, "•lt
;er:,m •1th
;,,;;bod;r lf
girl.a
the;
on goo<i
,..,,.1a. let
Somet•e,eo tho)' don't
:,;,
Md
owlc!
1nthe e..!t rr.oon?
lot you try , you know.
!<>a h"4 not been y<ait'nc
bacl<Ward <tnd •orw'l!'d b d ::o Y
.-\ Zo. o1r.
l B.Rd:e't y~u ~1e◄ te4 over ttere
A
!lo , e' r, ! hsd not.
:! To~ ... .,.. not .,,, #r\en~ly
ter,,,n '"th them?
A ,he~ did r.o~ epe,k to me wher. the, passed oe an the ~oe.4
t ::tt'IOke to t~t!!.
X
You e~okeY
..
•
l apolla •h~
: paaso~ thee .
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You no• yoar !ather
h"4 told them ;ou had loake~ u~ tho
haraet
A
,o,
"'
,vh•re
air.
oo when
did 1ou
you went from bo!l);en.b~ut noon?
A I went to Kra. ~'Qlor'e.
X Jldn't JO; •o to !!re. ?~;lor'e
and t•ll her not to l•t
her oo wu out tbo.t ~.
th&t :,ou • :!at her wus out al' tu or out
o• borta
n4 that ho had Ven ~elt'a horse lool!:ed ur, and ,.,nld
1 ,o,.. ur h•r oowe tr ehe dt I10t y,er. ther, nr·1
A • •~id h• oighl ~en t~em u~.
:t !-io:. #ftT doetc t.:-. :'l,110~ 11T4 tr~i:1 OU!
l I don't Irr.ow Just how!=
it ie; Juot , ehort d1etnt:oo.
~'l.tter ~!"'6Ct. ;"Ol.lT' #&thr is • ••r., h!&h :etr ,. car..
1&1:'t h•T Yer., kJ>o,r tt~t
ia • !,c-r. . .Jac't 7,u•
l
ref!"a!n "TQ:; answo-r~g th.Lt ~t.eatioc.
l fhftt 1e t,. e OtWe ueati:m 701: 68k:ed to be 111-..;onaed
f • :o
I
•
to&'!.1f.,.1n
tee.
l
&
',
at Dt,3ton 1 n re;,n-d
to ., ottr t'ot!:urr?
oir.
X Jh~t is the re eon you do not want to a.oowar thAt 1utntlon?
A l don ' t l<now. a,oething
oro.,re~ co not to r.nd I h!,.,not
•
lltleworod 1t 1ot.
?CR. !I~=.:
.J\ OT~:
I will
Go
not
~reaa
.hesd >.nd toll
Io-r
the
n unewor,
court
n
Jory.
,tT.1 ....d:
11 I ¢,'in Bllil ie th~t he 1a 11llr
bod;, olae when he gets 111&d.
l
[o
1e n little
::.ore 'th1..n the ,ver .. ~e un
A
I dor 't i;l)ink eo.
;t
ll' ~ ~• eTer
-r11n
you
"""Yfrot1
the bow,o•
~y
ereT
1;
I ObJeotior.
ned. I
&~et
X
e!ate:-.
!oo did n~t
·e:i
1>ur !siher
t.hnt ~1••
V~n
elt cndo htr
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or
0\lt
th~ at·•ble
!rQ~ ~ho ~rJtt
A I ,old
un1.11 thtt"/ h:<Jdromovo4 thoee ptoooc
door.
dt4 70?
h1o when tho;, were ooaing
You euy you told
.\lld. Yeo, air,
I
road.!
a
th• =~ad ,nd OhW
◄-.
were c.oei!'t,,-
th.~j t1llf
o:r bo•~rd.
him whor
the;,r we,-e
up tho
00'1il'I{;
~ere WM he when ;voa to14 hio that?
,\ .~
..round "t tht b6ck do'lr OUJ"-rf 1 n .. the horae.
X lie h,.4 not ~t ~:a t, ,~. l,,,rn :v•t?
:t
th»t
90 9
A
llo,~1r,
X
l)1d ho
~1t~1nr
obout '3\e1r be1rv
they were not vi.n?elt and hiU daughters,
fl'iO])lG tr,m U1> Ob the bran.oh!
w~•n I :ti,-et
bun~~ o! "branchera";
but th~t thay were
That ie ~hat
X
T}'l_..at18 what you thought?
A
Yea, otr.
X
now tar we-r-athey fx-~m you when 7ou e w them "trst!
on the poroh,
~he:, wero oomin6 up tho road 01311 l wae &ittin;;
0""
them,
ll:now bow !a:r it waa,
40ll rt
/. very ebort
X
d1etanoe?
Bir,
708,
abort distance;
Yon know the two dl\Ught&rD o! :llr. Ven ~.1 t 8lld Jene" Ml-.
,\
\ T8't7
I
VM,alt
I thou~ht
~
A
A
l
ISfl:1
• both.
A Bossi•
I u.aually
Y8r-J wall?
wae wiuking alo"6 with a dilforont
saw her ,,.u,
~ rnet
~~•>' war• l"&llr1r.g oJ.ong l1kl
on !rob •Mt
&'>ee one do-
ing what "hey d1d.
WITttESS: YID, sir,
1
You neYer 11&1dan}'1:l>b:g, nor .114 ;,our f"ther
7ou near~ st Da,ton
ever oq
,r'>oee teat1JI0"1
a.n;,rthtllgabout baYtng mlateken Mr,
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Vcm0 olt
51
and ht11 two danghura
I Objeetion,
tho?
for
a11atftilled
"brenohera.
• ..-.,, not
1'90ogr.1s1"6
J.
TH.;;COIIBX: Did 7ou atate at th• oall-trtal
that
the7 were "branohora" Md that you d 14
not know who they wer,t
?llfllb
I diu ao~h1nt
Wo. air.
~:
the lrtt>,d.
of
be••
Tli:: COUrl!: Yoo would not
'""n~!oru,d it
dq 11' ho bad not men~ onen it!
lfo, o,ir. I would not.
ot manttonina it.
\ll1'1Jf:~•:
X You. ~"7 rou hoar"
A
'f•o.
to
Bir.
,raa
eot
:tr. V•in "alt
the horue,
g<II
ti, ink
them tnl k:ing out at the barn?
:t l!1>tore 7o•u: tathor
hut t~oro
not
I did
to
out
to tho bM'll when 70•, to1d
go1n,; to the
oru! hlft dGu,;btore
ot,ble
Whftt '1d b• ....,,
did l:o do!
A
told
Be went up tho path,
an\\ Ule t'irat
,~at~~
a 14 1n a ~~ri
A E• a..id it eo I he,n
out
or his
A
He 5orurx&l.ly tlllke
loud.
X
!!o talks
A
I have
1
lt
ver;
o~ton
ltl..,_~
o~ Yoioe !
it v1r7 rla1nly.
Did be&"¥
and thllt
than
1oud Yoice o~ •hct
X
tone rt! ~o•co or not•
or 1nru;'
thut
io hio
1111.Ullwa;, ot: tnlk1ng.
loud?
epolcen to hill at hoae.
:outh Coro•ine,
bo~o /ro~
about
is the ro8Bon :for his
till.king
ti.lking
einoe
he lul8 been at
so lou4.
lolld.
He oon not hoar
Ho wne talkinS
lon~er
teua.l.
l
of
heard w..o. h•
.i; r
tho11 to get out •na eto~ treap ..ss'li,g.
t
y®
th
1'i"YIte
eooo1111t for
the
,
t lltnl!
your
loader
hearing
~hen tho re-nort o!
hto t~lkillg
~e
---m:.~!I.owdo
,u,d not hoarix,;
,un?
t hoard
th18 talking
but
I did not hee.r that
gun.
tho r•~ort
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.uid 7ou did :not see what took place
Q
X lo sir,
a~ tMre•
I d 1d not.
1 You did not eeo
whet
roo.r
!nth.or
was do1ng when he w ,a
out there?
llo,
X
eir •
.t You didn't
told
you that
lmow that
).lo,
l
~ter
he •a.a eh.ot yoa
toot
L-•~~r e•.1.wVr
up tbore,
::lo, air.
~
Toe:, trted
J,
!lo,
l
And -:l:e;, "84• no thr8&ta
diaturbnnce
a:od dl 4 xnih
I don't
1
Atld
ro~ember
after
tr.ct!
nothtn,;
at &11
the
onllf
Of cnythlog.
bno• v• lnnCUftl!C 7ou rear
wsa 7our t~t~er
aooaeing
llr.
"-lld 7:,u !id not he"r
!Ir.
o:,- h18 a11u!;hter~ woro thleveo
Von "elt
beard
or ~orm?
time w• tl 1~ 7on:r hearing!
Wboro-houee;
bear
at nll
daughters
alr.
A
nlooe
~o me.keno
'""olt or hie
in "-IQ' wa7/ aha~•
A
that
ho of!:le down w,d
atr.
-~
a!ter
imtil
he WIUIllhot?
tJ:ttYdi8turbMae
~e
}ta wn• shot
Q!ter
the
shooti"6
o
Va.n ••l~ o~ kee~ina
him ea7 Umt
t1'• V•,:n Polt.a,
and li~re;
7ou did not
thnt\
J.
! do not re .,,be:r of it .
.I
~'f it
1t!
If
,r,
a
i,i
14 w11&a
tt:.8re er,
~OU b•~rd
p8rt
6!
it
r•e.&011
wb7 ..o-a ahoul-.
70t1 could
hnT• h••id
not
1t ~11,
ooul4 you not!
J.
tbe truth.
t ..:ueee I could hllvo beard
it
all
but
h.a~e
I am not goini:
'tO
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Sp•aking
<If
w~n~•~ 7our father
at11ncling for
out there
.\
Wh'ln!
L
Whan he went to the
tilt> truth.
in ab~
I w !ll
et ;;ou thie;
humor?
•~~bl•'
A Sure be waen' t in en7 good hui,or ~hon he went to tho
Etable.
'!ou 1'<>Uld not <>XTOCt 1::, to be, Wo<tld :,001
X
,1.alc:,ou. tbie.
l w111
huJ happeno4,
wl>y did
tho booee 1n e bad humor?
ho leave
... th1.nk tJ;,at ia
A.
tth:, wocrn' t ha 1n • ,;;ouo h?U:l~l:. •hat
"•l"7
en.e;,
a
412:esttan to ua
'\'.. !ne,.er H &lld giYe ue tour Y-tow o! It.
:,our fnther waa tn a bad hUlllor when be eta~ted
·er.
JlO yoa Imo wh:,
oat Where Van Pelt
w-.e?
A I reckon·
cn;rbo<lywho wae trea~Rased
woe wollld be 1n • b!\d humor;
ab,-ut
tile
A Yeo.
J:
to llr.
stool< like
I
bad ~old h1m when he our.ie hone
on ae all
,itoc,Jr !ntn>d1ng
X Sad :,ou been
r
w,d
on with
ti.mo.
~he
VAOPolt
co
tell
hiJI about
h's
stock~
sir.
'lhon?
A 1'1:-a. T'\710,.
Md a&Jrod them
nd I went to "p:r1r.g Crook 11ne tU1; ..,4
~o co·•• ana
th ra ,o dr 4 Ts the stock
tw,e
oa.t
the atook
out;
l had atn:rted
nd the mdd r.ulled
'TI".41n.
- C!li:l• b .c·· :!:r'l- S:-,ring. Cree\'.. tho
oo•
wu
I atol'P"d
rrv rubbers
etill
in
in
of-' ..
thn1.
X When wae t~nt?
~
When the wb,~t w,a th~t
high.
(lndioatlng)
eomethln& like
ttat.
A Yes,
atr.
I
YDDdid not ·~
A
I took t.00 c,w
~J:ret til!le I dla not
az>:,1.l>ng
to
!Ir.
Ve.n Pe];t tbat
dq?
c!t,Wllthe second timo it •&..a in there. The
t•,o hor out but the eooond ti~• I •oo► her
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and ~eked the~ to koop the cow ou.t, that
do'll'll there
oome
and
down
with the cow booAueo I h&d m;- own work tq do.
V&.llPelt t1<llced like ebe w,.o mad but
coold not pall ~e do1fll with thg,
X Jo:, haYen't an, good wtll
Se!q
•
either; ;o:, mist entertain
tbom do 7ou not?
!lo
A
own viowe.
I Will
that.
DOI
entert~tn
d, n,t
if
t,warie
I kne" the7
tow,.,-de the Ve.a !'elte
7om- tether's
or l!ra.
to•ords
bitternoee
the:, •ottld
wha• you ~re do1n:;
t•eee glrla
reolingo
oven\n6 and talk
thoa thla
mad.
lire.
the ws:3 I feel
I have no bitter
.',
I wasn't
stop
nboot 1t, I h1tve _.., rlfht to a;ir have enon0 b oouro50 to live the life that I live and
live like eomo others WO!tld like to 11Te. I an nbOTO
elr;
I m :iot a.akir.g yo,
!
l couldn't
"'30"J.
if ;"OQ
9
towards tbeo.
to thoa tho s=•
I have no feeling
1>dmlt it.
l uk
! 00<,ld
ae other
/'fl
to
neighbors
,ii;nir.ot a ooul; I
oru, not o.tford to •
•
~~•r.
did
X
et?cl:;
•hen
did
7ou tell
:TOIiBJ.l t ,lk O'l'>r the
_-\ On ieatnrdQ
da.7 befor•
X
your tnther
aTan4.
l!e c~
about this
trouble
troapt-elnc
o!
,o-:. hAA brui?
1~ !~om "3outb 011.?'olinn tbe
tho difficult,-.
YOU told
him
that night,
A I told him that
evening.
414 ;ron?
He cn.~e ho~e about fivo o'olook,
! i;ueee.
!
Did ;ron do it,
that
ts what ! ""' ael<'J.n&
it•
A Yea. si~, I 1a.
X nd Wha~ did 7onr t tber
UJ'
,
the next morn:u,g?
A •bat did bes...,
8'I}' wt,011
the oox\ ~orning?
he looked that horse
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A Ha 41d not lock
,:
ih6t
did
up w,til
-.1.0Jl6 about
went out
there.
he found these
1 tY
to get
too.
d1 cl
9
kno# he talked,.
little
bit
louder ka
'IM
~e1t nbout
usual.
X And he onlled
A lie oolle~
hio wh,rea
that
Md
a ..r.
A Od oout-ee. you a~
than
reo1>lo there
An<l ho went to tRllt:111g in a pret t)' loud manner
l
he not
tt.
!lew aad when he saw them go to the atubla
tht,t le r18llt ts ttf
'!'hat te oorr&c't Isn't
lie oat fle•
o!'f arul ""•n
their property.
_.. le•.
t1me7
:rou wl:an tt:t he d14 tr.ntf
he au7 or tall
A He 41d not ea;, n word about
X E• luet
~inner
--
thea~
0 1rle
"1ioree,
didn't
tho:,
he ~a'!.cl °""'"tl:;!1
! 1?18&?1 !'lorte.
r bro"ght
thst
he'!
- ~o llr.
1n the
tr1ol
beor,uoe
1s w>.o.t he a&Ant.
Z
:le d1d er,;, that
.\
Yee. at•.
to l,lr. Van nelt?
:< You were no't lookin,:
to see
"bat your father
wtiu
do1ng ct
t!!.e.t t ina"
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I do not lcnow wl!i,t
we.a too ~a ... a~
f;l"'O!!I
l.
Where wau he?
J.
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:be1
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tha
ttn
do tll1lt could
hu.rin 1.hoo; he
th•:a then.
w-.a o a· ng do-,rm the bg,ck pti.tb. ool"2!eg clown b:, the g6.rlan
and thoy were go.ir>t out
l
he oould
8table.
through
the orohaTd.
;ol.l:g th:?°0"3h the orchard?
the; wore gotns out .ttnd r~ther
Wti9
ooo!ng !rm
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lladn't
you heard hi~•~
':JIF. com,•:
=h11t w"" o•ter
WIT:t'E!:: After
I!'""
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tho B!lme thing before
thst
time?
tho sho~ting?
the ehoot1ti,r.
aek1ng wh~t han~enei
'J:l':ere wa.en't IO rnaooh
before tho ehootmo.
harT'lene,i before
t'he shoo ,..1t.; tt.r.t
T
herird.
:it You do not
know whAt ,J Id tnke plaoo oat
there
be:!'ure the
&boo~tng!
A I h~ve u vary good idba of what tnten rlnoe ~or I OM hear
"-?ld 1 ~binll: m;;- el\r8 wore o;,en and l 4on 't thi!lk
had a.o7 tonble
to he~r wb3t woe esid.
't
7'>ur e.ar• 't!fat• oper. ie>u d14 n~t
!'~ •·~
to etwd
a•
a.~d e~e what occarod at tho ot~ble
tUe
the trooble
when yoo. know
your ~&t~er wen~ out tnore ~r,-?
A
I wns st-.nd1n1;: up when they !1 rat went to the door ""d
,t.e.:. 1 e~t
do,m.
X You hoord be!or• that tlme your !stt.er
engey ,-oice a!ld 7ou Jene he w
why didn't
you get oaji of ,-car eeatT
talking
in an
lrbat caused you to ta.lco a
aent?
A r h1'd bean eittir>g
tbere be:!'ore and juet ,.ent b11okwhore
l .,...
X Htau llathan:,,
1s~•t
1t truo th6t you wer• in t~e houoe
Md w•re pr ~ot on the ~oroh at &11!
A No. sir,
Oro
I wac out on the ~oroh. There 1ft ~ cbove who
lr:no•a I was oll.t tt•r•
no to0tter
what othera
i?7
to Mlle
1t
apne•r•
•
~ou tell
this
jur:; th.at you. were on the fr~nt
theao people went ap the rosdf
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lrho took down th• oroea p1•o••
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liho br,a,iht
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I don't
A
:vr. Van
Pelt
,.,.. 1our
there
•
ct the oorn-orib.
It tto oon-ortbT
A llo• did 7ou 1-apren
•~•bl•
~o
110
him there!
t kn•• h• •~e t~ere when t eaw t~e
r;itle
w&l.11a-p ~ tho
•loor.
I
fou wt1r• •till
atu:41ng,
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t~ero ~• well
le •h•r•
ff.ID
hi
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t~e•!
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h• wno lt4n41n•
oot
·
r t"8r t~•n!
A fo waa •~anding
,
th•~
did.
I do not llnow 11bore ho wu tten.
X lhor•
X
I g,,•ea the girle
know who did,
was
X ~here
tho boroe oat af tho et•bl•T
;;ot the hor • out but:
laiow
.a 1~ l blld eeen hie beoauao there
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!'1-.e sho,tlr,.;
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s~.
tho ""Olt1l"I~ had cot
.x
r-!tf!i'
8bo ...._tc,,...h-i.:i taker. pl,;.oe whet: t.hfl boree wea b.r0t1g-ht
~
A
tl>e at. bl•.
!
think.
~"4 it
e
tlllren pll!011
t~~en
~1~oe •hen
I •at
down, or
not?
horu• ....
out ot th• at•hl•
~hen thl
$hO)ttnb
to~lr place.
~
,eo:
A!><!t!w two ttrle
t•e a!:.>•t'l'l:
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not.
t.
were l•ad1nr,
tl>I hnre•
o~t to tte
road
took pl•c•T
bo•
•b•\he?" they ••r•
le &d 1r..at,._
s h,rn•
out or
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w't-len70n
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thtt:k ~our tatler
•~•
the oorn-orib!
A
l S!JJI the girl•
I
Tou
that
j<l)OW
he went un tbere
at tho st!tblo
llr. Van •olt
door;
I w,s not look;ng
!or
hnd n gun In b.18 h@d8 when
0
A llr>, elr.
~ :·~
~,J 3Y ..S. O~.
~
think!
Ql:litted to ask you about the condition of t~e
lan-:! ~boot the st- ..ble and corn-cr1b where this d1.t"!1oult!' •ook
plaoo;
11.!>Ii<... •
70'l
hnTe
8
)ftnt
las"t ooc.f)l,e o,. 7e"re.,,
A Jn-e, oi"'l", I h,,vo been thero.
:i Juet •ell t'he ,ar• wi,otl:er .,,- r.ot on thla
hap~en&/1, bwtore
t~-&re.
A Rell,
or a•tor
I !61led
tho ehootlng
tl:ore wore
to eeo tho rook& t~•re.
Juet in the nerl ho~a• ~al
liJ-1 lL\c~~:
~e
Never a\hd
•olling
dllf
tet
trr',
rsak!:
?.l;:i aunt
•~ 18
ti
who li~cs
what eooobo~
told
,ou.
1ft!RE!'S:
dll,
A Woll, the
•ell,
l&true.
1t
tell w)Jr.t your all?lt to1d ::;ou, bnt
ar•M trOl':!110 r 1wn knowledge.
OT~: Don't
roolrn are not there
Md I don't
fa~her oould have been 1n tbe r.ot o! ~,oring
-.u
1! ;.h.er-o .-ae. no roen
at.m4'ing
()
Vru, Pelt
~.
l!=nr
tlrls
i.aa
,de
aeked
nnd T understood
th4're. !ar
11:now
how ey
up a rock ~here bo
1'"'""'
to ,:,iok up.
J?U !lb<>'lt !"Our re lat iQna w! th thl
yon~,
er,el!l< ~o :7<lll but you !rl>Olte to t.lled
8'))7 that
the7 did not
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, 111 t!t t path to
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nd ho ~a1• on baok.
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in•~t
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I o.anr.ot rD ~~or ~r
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h1m. e1r.
n 1n
to
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r~th""· •1ch~ 1ng ar.y>,od7,
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tho ,,.,,~e1ts
llbl. ll
in 1111 ;.o
hear1
wont
1 8 ff: rt
him th~7 wer
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B• gene.-&117 geta out of the ws;,-?
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A I don't
1 • .. u
think
an7bo4t neode ,;r,;, aelt-dotenso
with hia;
that
uaelaae.
)lao1c ~•th boa•.
ho
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not m,ia then,
A J ooul,I not tell
B• l1d not
or
whether ho "•a
not.
d d he , to )'OU!
,bua1 Van ?•lt,
A Be did not •"ll'
docto.•·' c.
WASb•!
bout Van ?elt,
Wt:,th tng
but ..-ent to th&
eoarell tbtJII?
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! t.hir.lr ho wna.
1
You went out und h1tohed up hia bores
und took bla
to th•
i?Ot.or' e!
h0l"88
1ent aat -nd g(')t --..bebr 1 tle
1 ,an
k.
lnd I OpAl'lll!d the
Q
-
anderatr.nd
yolt.r •stJ.81
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orJ.:y tl!..t
io'ng
.l did
11&!"8 ~nr
you deny that
ca.a-t.o
a.r,- d
not till
toa tatlle?" 1a ~rotty
A rhtr•
)ll
I don't
abo,t
go::.r.g to d<> ,, :· d•ca~
wan no d'-'>",;O,
&boot your father
beirc
in a
•
ru':!U!,[EJ) BI ll!!. B. 1!',lX]j.
luint,
in .tu
throw ILg roe
a lfhen he
ia h• not?
wore no roo1ra up th ore .
.l
lie s pretty ho:n4y in hai,dling
oontroYeraioa
or thinge of tb~t kind?
A
tol~ .Jra. Z 7lor
th-air oa.t+le
noth:ng
c~osi. XIliXl!J: x:L\¥1 !UTI
in t.-ouble,
70
tl ~o 1"rflllt on.
o owe up and that
~. ml •ht pen btr
A Bo, sir.
g.ta
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Mr
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x
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.na:l)Ut 1, o~ • h'I
mooh o~ that.
J don't
rocke When he g~te into
lcnow of hie throwin;
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teatlf1e4.
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Yon are !>r. P.W.t~~nt~ ot Sprint; CreeA
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Yee.
elr.
Q YCN ara a vr~ot~cir,e
A. lee.
of Ju.ll&,1919,
A YO-,
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pro:reaei,,n,,ll;y':
~Jr.
l'h .. t did
yt>U <'1J"cl to ba
A I "ound a f1ee11 ••odd
etor,iuo
p'bJe1o13~ thdr~•
Qr '>rest
bone.
t':e , ....tter
o••r
th•
w11.h hl.m?
collar
bono neaT the
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A
Yea, s1:r.
il!i.
wJ,ctbtJr
01·
r,ot, thu.t ball
the bo,:e deflected
O'.l''r: S~111 it
WIItr'~S!
tr11t ball
A Y,tu, ntr,
t,.ut.
...,, h
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tl\er not dQctor~
:rem5.:!necl in hie
t.re t,l l?
might
It 18 poseiole
had atruok,say,
be in tho
1! it
It
prob~b!y
Jr
wi-1 ..r~ery?
bava
octe.:-ea
asvo,~d
body?
•
,,r, incl! ai.;her.
1t -toe.le! bo-,.e :::.:.u;,;,cd:J~-: "'"llar
i1ren c • .J.'".. w:r.t.14 hav~
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1.here is
I~
nh> ,t
I think
it ~as.
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po3:lti7•
".l&t•. air.
f'le1lh
'bono.
01-'l'.
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e;t lt.
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01>l\,1T "bo'"lo b1tt 1 s.:, ,,.
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l..lallct
tl::.e -h.r:on1..
the
Juglar
would It
bone.
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fro~ the ~on=~~ nr t~n ~L1l t• 'l"'lB 1,-ne~tc~ •n~ ~if n~t ~~ter t~o
~•q.
r,-1:'" t~ ... tt1r1n 'P'-11-l~t,..,ct th• no1lftr 'l~n• er.a ,tltV:C~" o!~.
1 CM yon tell
or not th"e b"l l etrnot
,.i,ot>t•r
h1s l>o~y 1n
or t ,w9
front
It oeoe obliquely.
A
atruok
him snd tn that
pla~~ on
the
I think
•lly .µar.oed
ne>k t>u-eo-tou~the
it
<l'll!Joacross
o!f.
Yo\l could
of an inch
~he neok Md
ee " bo.rr.t
l?!lg •
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An<l ;r;,u t.l ~Jc that
't'ea, cane.ed
'b;; U:,e b&ll
ei•
1.~
ontered
and au 1t lo!'t'.
o1.0\1 :h1.;.:.!t tr.o
A. lea.
3ut
i
exa~f=t1on
btJ. let- J>&.tt.3o out
~ho be!~.
fJ!"Oba½l;?
t.ir.
to
il!q
r,oe1ti1'~1;
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lfOUl~ h,wo tn hav,
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r thinl: ;on would.
th'.1,t: !:Ll..# be.
fl'l.rq, th-..t: tlio "'l' ....
"l 1Jt.".ll eu"f'~?'a
~t,·,
:!ro111the 1'0Und WO'lll4 'b<>an 1ndionttou
bo 1JI his bo<lJ'?
A I U:lnlc it. 1n po:ialble,
other
or
th"t
~ho bf,ll
!Jot , t.h1n'.< ho would
symptom• 1:f lt ,mo In thore.
"'1ght
still
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up there,
when did yon !iret
mtse yonr horae?
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the ball.
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defeneo
,xe.ob.ed
What Was done by 1 ou or an7 otller
lllemberu of the
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where 1th.o horP.s wa.ef
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aid
8ho Btlid that
B
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sked her
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mother
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gun,
tiRe h& go~ to '!-,1,ye
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le when he w•nt
;,on_.
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il.own for
the
rock.
dc.wn t~ ere."
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?bat
all
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go in. in front
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seoo:ril m,d you ftltbor
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t • et bl•,
about
tJ,a bl/.l'a you wo,·e first
that.
Md Been1e
third.
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X You ••nt
up to the
"t cble door
and took dooa, the pieooa
of bo&rc!.e?
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fcrJr epiltes
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the fil"Bt
thing
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lon • oloso
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not tell
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rook.
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to the fenoe
u,e :reoe
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thre
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not et:"'1
:;u: o..
dr;l
men, lu!!' t ho,
o in atrollt,?
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oa il'e?"oOJI~.
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en Ur. ~or
4 n't
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we went art or the
yo
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a
bout tile
to a oot
:rou
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e e,rer tareatenod
to ehoot you that
did not threaten
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about vten
tw.lcing
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l(UJ!8ti:>nlng you JOU :!14 not ea, that.
1'hnt waa on tbe dny thnt
A l
out of Jiero I .,,111 alloot.
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l
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nnybo!l:;,
"~bo y.
e:.t for t • bar •· to
day'
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ot ~bro• a rook at an:,l>oa::,?
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j,
o di
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llo.
nbt
l,e ,.m,ld
hove thro-.m th• rook 1,:: he oo ld
ve
gotten 1t.
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and tlum ho
• slli<l. •oo am get 7Wr bor e. go ""1 get ,wr
.,ai
ohot, 1e not 1.lult true?
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"'1an ho e 11 tht.t.
o 111n· ue whoree t.J>I reaeh1
'i t• er ao.1.1, "lllo. yo-.. ere
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o lleJ
o, alr:
1,0
,roa ~l,ot
g 4oan :or tt.e rook.
t ot thnt r.e wi:s going to t e house when he
r t'1ler kepti
be c:21.led us tboso
went 4011u lhe rolld lie stood
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,hen
not 61)1 g to ht t 11J ,;1.rl "i th a rock",
012t "o • the h012eo ,-ou
J.
?:orae, •
ne:.&.1 bef'.ore.
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n littJ.a
better;
thiu
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1• to
houao of
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p,t tl,e st ble
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at 6 ,J's ot ,ill.~?
thuy are 'both n good pieoe
air;
tB,
1s to ti•
OXT: • e hoaoe
11r. 3trickler.
fr~= tho
south
l'es. etr.
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road.
of t.he at 'ble,
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o;~l•.
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bi~ beforo
ris:,tt
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b~t
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ana TJtJt
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fo ou is',
:,011
no1. 11ure. 5: ere ie
,:nd tho 6 rde1 ; t
:re.no•any-;rt,ore 3 et l)iOOO. o!
fu·,co
ex'l.cm s
X .-=:,at
fence
ti10
-rd.ea
liko
houee
the
bet.100
where
tl>o
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ODe,
bout. bolt
Y!Q' to
t
e ntbole
does it
ore.
was r•
t.L.
ta;:
...... close
to t i11 n!l4
tbJ.a ono nrou 11i there?
1• tolor.!ll>le
down ttio
uer
HO
olo .. e to tl10 et ulo?
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ot ~bo st ble rottil:l9aut
tbe
hort'.o?
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be b d
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ve til:le
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t 1a "'"7.
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troo
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t?-oe lt'l4 tno g,nion.
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a atr11<>
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r 81Btor
llceote
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oloae •o
with
,a t ere 1,., w ere
t~ • ccrr,.
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o b1
'W!UJl:ri lll tl'.aru.
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at 7ou With U.e
b:
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not ,p.1 t but went rlght
o
mid i;ot
:ne hori;e
1e what I went thor•
!or
ond that
is .,,. at
out?
e1;r, tht.t
a rooit'f
him in a stoOl'>in~ poait1on
but I 41d not soothe
rook ..
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to i;et the horse?
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Yo l!.14 not h1rre to ;;o in tbe
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I did not go 1D the lltb~l••
e1;r.
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,oi. were 11·1•1.nr tho at ble
p
s!lw him in 1.bo eoL o:C stooping
wl.tll
t.,o ho:r~• wua Ju,st
Md
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o,t
•n th t happened.
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taat,
e;ot tJ • hone
ssid
tho at
wss oao.in;; Ollt or tho door •
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I don't
.now abou+ that.
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tba, .horae out;
t eae runes
rock.
1t vaa
until
"get ;you., hone".
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got
the home
ble;
lJoroo ..hen ;you
dovm?
X lio hG4 aoi-1 that,be:f'ore
out o!
da.)':
air.
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ho ap•lllt1n
atocrc ln3
be re""
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said
times?
to?
dow:, Jw,t an I
ed OYer
to i;et
to ha not
·ot 1. • door o])er. end
a r:>oll: am cill~
to lit
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getting
t!:o
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pa a c:ii :Beae10.
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gettinG
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on
ulz.
t.o t~.a
thin& ovo-r a Tory fe\f r.t1.nutu1 ~,r ovur a Jll.lnute.
the
gun or"4lc, 4J.4n't
7~uT
au·.
X :D!-1 he 0113 M)'tlling
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rook~
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lo,
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hor
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tho
gw&
or o:Cod~
o ilo :,au Dltm,
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• I •111 kill
1111ho 11"14 or oot ,mtll
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that
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bo -..01Jld lt.111 me
er.
tben m;, f•t
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of .Toe llatl""l'.
b1t
"'"nnt
ot ~att onl{t
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.be 1l'Olll h ...
tbrou&h his
air.
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I w a.
ille4
Ube
Just
lll,e.
li:1111111.1
h!!d hit met
tl,o
8"'10 au lf
or,i t11tl1 a rock
~b• bnn.et
h:id We!lt
oQa~.
_oa. do tut know • et1.ar the:re
8J1l' roc..co to.ro.--n.or
~l!
not?
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roolta
1 reokoo
t.lierc
ace
wo.vup tho orohi,rd bot111ten tl)i;
bers
aM. ps:,o
B<>en J.t.
YM, Bir,
on h.1e lan4.
:X Rwl
yuu ~otton half
beforo Ur. llatleny
o.t. ille,
and the
""71:hi
Bessie
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,e r.ore et
Z
Yon ,...,
Ilg
to :,'OU
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the sinblo
7011 had
• 1Tere lll.ao~t
z All three
or
at
told
when ho got to tho ntoble.
gotten
to tr.e et blo before
the etal>i<' btdore
Ye", elr.
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io1cu·&
not w lkin,r. Gr&.aat?
A
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not
11 •bro
r
iou ••r•
he a 14
ho s0 d 8J'l.S'1;lung.
you,
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A Ilo. I we
'J")a to go be.ck or ntt?
dt.
1n n"'v...1.t.
1n fro:11. end I!.rB. Eiae,
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7oa • .,~
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c1own 'll'll11lllut e ii
boar.I
S: Big boards oet u NI boards
door 111tl'> big eoiko
1.. 1 t.
l3S .
tbat
- OS. Bir.
,; rew ..ue door
thure
e hnll n:uled
tb..t
~oor II
Yoa. tir,
X
l'.'hut is
tlto st
tbo door. (Indicatin
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t
I brolto
e board
,r~
,F'llt.ttne
Uter
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t do,r
to
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n-o, sir,
X
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hu.r.g thnt
"118n't
an. th.at
n ,.- .e:o ;ro11•o:ot
i.?l
st~l>lo.
I t:.1'.'!
_.n
to got the bone.
tbo et ble wl ere yOll ontored
o et ble
tl o do,,r "'o
w!· ere
I jtot
11. tnd
p f!lld nrilod?
t
t•••J,oro e.
not bun;, tho.t
1 t w- 13 ropped
tt •
and
to got ti o horse
t .e
r "
1n
an~ thv.t is
d-7.
1n.
a •rop~,,i
_.\ Yos, air.
off
on r,1oture.)
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w
about
blo you Ql"e tellin
door
entnz,oe
tcro~a
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th&t •
01>on'·'
fHI C~:
· ,us tllnt t o onl
out ot t e st b1e
z
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t b~"1'd-4 were t:t:oy\
1'!ll
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he &al.a 10,, not to tres
1n the ~t•blo
da1f
n....ilecl up.
111 that
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frlD
of'. stol']lin;;
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traao • 11g."
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?lo, s1r
tr~ep
tl:o
es on hi
7C1Q. <1al1beri:tel7
st ble cloi,r CDd sent
the
,: think
er.uil • qult
you not to
1'.ail tol
p"1lecl
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oU al,o t. tho
bollrds
tl.lle ho
wJ-,e,:: l10 o&.ld tJui.t'i
l Bid not.
X tr'nJ dlu poa notY
A
when 1113 atock gets
lleem:ia,
,;etn 1 t nnd that
X
Jen 41il n>t
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1D whl).t I ir..a
11top•,
sir.
••athony in referenoe
tbo tillleyou. 1>ere tr;1 If' to rot
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X Ien't
A
lia
It
toll
doi:•t
to
tl:e e1. bl.a,
to thnt
,ioturo
look tl
a oarrect
t WO¥ to~
our boi·sef
p!oture.
tl:t.t
b~ut
deuor1pt1or.:
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it
ovor.
loo<
to •·
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t•ot
rooogni~e
A ~o ~ loukll lilte
X
c,tr1U10•
to ...,t,
io there
you '"1irt'•1'lg
thet ptoture
iot-Jra
tlla
do\Tll the
Ye • elr.
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cloi::ia,
'illll wmt 1>had an.1 pulled
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ou our :plw,e he co,ies
the
c.a being
t-aro
crib
the
oorn-
SJlQlt:, dOlm t. ~ro.
Yoli tlOtl(J 1111$lmmble home?
~hot iu biu
1oueo '>18"-l'the
at ble'r
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'tliat
I don't
nQ~,
I told
il. Lt 4~ .. • ~ look
1cture,
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:r,,11recall
that
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,ou
l"O<'IO~~e
;you tho
lll::e the. piot•1.ro
tl:n
thera
t'>ore 1e c 'h.o'!llle noar
Bir,
l,ut
it
tr ..th.
don't
u tho
I <Lon't roco;;n1ze
to me •
etab1s
tlle at• bla!·
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to tl,,.~ a
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oppol
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f""'t~
ratty
J.:no-., I ~l4n't
Y,ur father
door ho
did ;,Oil
Walle.
al\78,)/0
4o»'t
if
to the 4 ,or.
l.ook arouJid to soo.
you
a.ttor ~ •r.Ued
4'11:loarouwlrtt;bt
pretty
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huiila
1'118
bobinl! .Bossie,
r.:r. Uath81Q' l.:i.! a oer;i-~o,;u,
ilOJln,J soi,sthJ.o;,
nnd had b<,on
,., Ire a w hi
curr-yin.,; hi•
to bis
boreo
""4 • rae in
horse?
on t o b~clc pl.'.ltforru r.s
we ,rent up tl:.i, ro ..t.
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• told
X
lie
,et the bors,i
w, to
alli.4
tn
the hone
t
t attar
TllJl COW':': You
hie?
11
out~,
1<ttor pup
,
shot
ti
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,t it
,nu, 11.ttcr 70U 1'4tr,.,-
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d o.•'n .. hllh l.o w,-.a Bllot.
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he 11'~ not
stot
a too ping
tlu,t ti.mo: but i.ttor
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A
:'lorit>.
')1:l
ti<!. t'30 ,::.a:o:., n~:ie,
l::1
,ou ond 70ur papa do:
'tc" ~ , •
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pl
t1 a · i-:·. o out ox
t•• at
blef
oe•
llathw•J' a:-id ,:bet __ did,
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~en
iu,•
·<',at rcu e.ll
cn..1!. i:o "C.aend Jtll.!l
rfn.nt?
414.
~a t"-.,o llttlo
thieves
ent
tll'o
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be kur,t or, ., :l.lin
rei;.il
hi
to i•t
hie horse
those
nenen,
and ti.on he told
r 11p he
.r&n
a
ro-howle.
IU' ,;c
a:"'-
a;,a to
4
lie
Q
~ on,,,.
t,
Cl1 '
U 0!11'
-co :!I 11n
ooa.:~
telling
WL
e ho::- e ef'tt.r
.at
WI
··o
tt«:;>te4
"°:,ou?
IIC with
to ah-U:ll
t ho ran.
n
;'Dllr PQII aboat
toed folling
bad ho:,so
ao loDjf a ttC!&.
t a1a ~o do 1t rnytb.lng
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r1lllA1ni;
tll1Y
t at
A
. o.1r.
ij
llr.
Ollt o! 111• at l>le; 8"14
:r=
m
ti at blo,.
pa;>& 'llru"ded o!t
from TO'= wl, t <lid
doY
ltlltl:on7
~
c .,ent n:rmmd tile
:hon 'l'!lrnt ""'
Q
a., le tr••
a!~er J'lorio
, e,,.
l!nthon;r dolng "t tho tl
l!r.
• y
" fe.tllu
llhot hl. T
A
11\,7, be w,s t~llini;
ot a house ho h A
to got
ll
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larJe
Florio
Q
be WM 401118, what kine
.hon ho ju.et pnt hie hCID<Iclaso
• vu
.;o1IJ€ !or Jlorie:
nnd wee t\'Oing efI~r
o w 11 ;;01 T to
A Yee, sir
to t a gro,Jnd
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J.
ottar
!'O
,ii\
Jillpa. wai.t
~e
w:2a
cettizlo a
Florie.
nts "lor!.e
the
rookT
:oak
to get
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"<' o· od for
1d looked b lllc &t n&pF.
a roci:f
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papl'l •~·-
s t tlie bor • !Jilt.
h t did JO r PBJ\ Bil;!'.,,, en Ue.thon;ywtmt. to the ground
but to
A loot 1
c.nd W38 re chllls
!~r ~o ro::t·,
n bouaa l,o ran Md tl1st 1s
He told p pa w!lnt lrL~d o
A
w"oon bo aJ:ot hi.:J.
Bo
(!
Q
to: t .... rook wte:,
reaohug
'RIIS
u he IT!.tb1n 1?t:11Jld...
.1ataru:e
e t~l
of .lo,cle
t: at,
hi.
1! he h .S
gotten th t rockt
A
Yott, air.
"• Howoloso
for
th
1,1,ou be " B ro:iahillg
be to :,our e1Bter
Yl'll
:rooltY
A
l dD- 't know Ju.at Wbc.t 1:11, distanao
Q
Attar
;you
rot
t en;, tr:.a 11!:.ot 14
the !.oree awuy
~
! ther attac:,t
:i:r010
to
w .a; rli;ht
tt,.ere,
!)o~·
close.
tr.
after
er l:.1mr::i;y
,orer
Did ·c
i;irl■
A ""io
sir;
I
in
o:iyw
7.
wo sot owfl:of t1',ero.
fOll eot Otit
Q
bothor iu
or t ..o:
~
,rent on homeY
ere :,ou at tho l:ou~• et11.·ted to 8 o out w1t
tlle girls
to get tho i,orso,
X
,,hero
-:,as thl.D
ro(l)c; :,ou a,,., the l'OOk did
/OU
not·,
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r1g~t in !runt
ot
'i'llero ia no au ,10 troo
opplo treo
tloro
I
there.
l ilon' t lalo,r;
tl,oro must be en
Cr•:tlcntinc,)
dillfT
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ocratt,; we ■ill a-:, horo
Cid
and your father
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t ov"r lt is,L-, here;
or,wi
o~o
ll! th1a
not
iot
.!"O
t o b..ro and.
o· o down
ore Qld the
ow ."l•I and lfOUJ: a1eter
ro.::4. paat t.ue houee,
And 7w. ~nw Ur, l!ntr.cny
l
ero J.e
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rea, a1r
little
· o gc.rO.an 18
br.o.k I ore,
1.na.Yoe,
I l >diont1Zll!f ourl';;i:1g
sir.
g3%'dan tore?
bowoc,.~ t!:ie bouse
11111! the at
ble ll.'ld
l!atbm1y o ::,a 111·ound ~roe behind tilt.t g1>rdon; d1dn 1 t
around
bolllnd
~hut
0.
011 don't
ho go
·don .. hon he OClllGO'llt to tho at• bl o:
A !lo, lie om:io around
;r
ro.
e1r.
hio ho~ee nt the 'book door?
X
1t I
ore wa W1ll a,i;;, 1a t. o
her~ 1B t o Bt ble rmd we Will p1.t tue
llttla
l:r.
here thr:.t u plo tree?
r cO!'ll' n<'• to1:.. you 'b;, tllat
1D a l.1tUe
■ re
picture
hut ertdentl:,r
t i.baut 'ere,
rood =-:mn1n, nort
u
011 thlr
boo nee the 11abs ero etown in the 10turo.
A It Je rt
&l.atlllca,,;
on:r IU1l1tho :.-ooic both r.ere
troo.
1111 a_plo
C(IT. 7011 loaoto
!Ir.t
tbie
l'lay,
go tllr<mgh yo11r 3111'<\ento get
to your hOllse,
J.!r • l!n.t t 8!1.;" ,
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.~a7iY:
!Jo, sir.
:la no - rd.en bet oeu. -..:, r houae
n.Dt! t. e oro:aard \'
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,;: ore
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1Gu, air.
o ga.rdoi bot ,oor. the house
d
at ble7
l
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:io. but I
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Yoa, air.
l
Yo 414 not "or
:ratl:e:rY
he o •• out tl:la way,
thlnk
a~
1-
(Indio
et ble bnt atilt
tie;,)
W1tt your
A:111,You , air.
,=
You lll>d
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r o
f •
e
■ tre.l.
t
11 , ~
o.! he!.! wq
t e at.a.bl• 1111e
tho 4rDr baniY
bonom
~-o r 111ator waa OTor ther n.c:
And
t • •~~le?
e , air.
A
ot "'1:o•o Ur. Ju.thm:,
Give 11a o:n 1de
tltl.a roClk;
1r
ere
1r II
ha wc:aronhlng
ha w •
•::aro11.:-hi1J8tor
or t o :rook, noar
th1a buUdiut
I do 't
l
ell,
:{
onll
to lino
often •·""
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It
buildi.,g.
Juat ha• lt 1~
t •ro I o~i:J.a toJ/l 1011 .,,. •·o ho <1DSato.ndi,,g,
You say thn.t thla
nor
like
rual: WCIIuov
tho treat
a tr~•-
Loo te tba tree
A It looke
bout tllie
tb.o.t l1111ld.Lng; :,ou d a 1' t e oa tl e ,l,.oo
011t
I ·,1aa a-ror
A It w
X
l:nOll' cn,tblng
in rofuro~oo
1 t ,1ouli
to tho etablo,
be right
hero,
"8
nau
t.a I
rmG.wber.
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'.:he tree
wno noo.rer tbo att.blo
A 'Ii 4 wllolo lot
\
thnn tho house?
llBlll:'01'
Did tho tho limbo
ot
U,o tro~ noftl'l'J tonol1 tho Qt _bl&?
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tho otuble?
:'lot fer.
z
You e~y +.lu.t rot1k
A Yoe, Sir,
tho tree;
X
--
ing on )><moil
11.iagrc:::i)
or on thie
r1.-lit horo ( 1nd1onting)
X
\Y'·o ho ov.tr ou !..'tat 111de Clndioat-
t.athe~;
tilo oornc,·
.A Like
but near
the tro•
•·e tr~e.
wa.a Ill'.
;her•
the tr-J!llr or thGt 1.ree\
th<1 rocll ""u not unler
~•r
it nm:•t
,aa noar
aldo or where•
ot tho atntle
waa b~re • ho wa:, at.tndlng
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ro, , Ter• 1'"11. .1 you: !atbclr p:-ott:7 oloee
to '!i1Jltwnon
he was p1okJ.Jlj; up the .rook?
! ti 1rJI: :p.apn -:,oo a 11 ttlo
X Ro 11l not got
oloeer
t.haD I ,,..,, ,
di:! hol'
to tho rock,
A ffo, wir, but ao near 1t •
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o lu-
bm-e
.l
Re h.od a our:ey-oo"'b,
X
\111oh h8n4 did ho b>lVa it
A lie hall. th<t cur.ey-000b
hia
"117thJ.1:5olae in till
rlgl,t
band?
in?
1n b1r loft
h=
&:tl t.ba ?'flg in
bond.
X fle st=k
&t yon wtth the o-:u-r:;-oo~b?
A Yes, oir; ho
.t
1t.h his loft
Oil
~ et me like
th1•
( intl1om:ln1,)
h 1111.
f
Y?e. air.
X
!Q ho left
handoll.,
A I do .. 't know.
Z
md Ito h:.ld tho ourry-ooe1b
A Yeo, oir.
1u bis
loft
lt(!nd?
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X \Thon he ,-oaohe4 f'or tho rock 414 ho at1ll
ru,.n4 f
oOllb in bis
A I don't
bow about
X llo,r
he ,=;oing to hit
"118
that either.
A
no wea milking tor her.
X
no 1raan t
1
w1th tho rook tr he cl.14?
;your e1etor
i:mlr1ng for JOU or your :ratberT
A. ll• •ss maklng
tor her:
Do you mean that
X
have the cru.rr:,-
ur,,
sir.
he wns 601116 along like
tl:18,
looking
ror eo &ti.1ng~
He wa.a, lool:1.ng beck.
A.
&"10::V troo
Ba •~
atoop11:g dOTn 11114looJcins
hor and going tows.rd~ hor ae hard.
'8
he coal.4.
X Ho did not got any rook in hia hand?
lie cl.11 ~ got it
J.
X At that
bt•t be nlll.4
havo.
out o! • ,o etr-1:1• Then t,e c..aa
t.itlo waa tho 'lorae
tor tho rook?
reaohin(r
A
lfo, sir;
sbo was gottill8
X
Did ;you hear lil'.
the door open.
eq
llatbeJJ
It
WttS
epilte4
"00 gut tl:to hora1t; go
oet
the boroo. •
He e lid tllat,
.l
tol~ u
Florie
had the, lloraa out 11bct1 he
hor■e.
to got t~
Z
I believe
Yo11b~l1vve
eho I> i tho horeo wt wlim:
he said to get
tho bor •"
X
'""b.~re
\II
tho hor30 ,rbi,r. ;,oi:.r tntber
A Be woo 6t1ll
X
1n tho
Tho hOl'HO wno till
a •.ot ~-
Ut!thon;rt
otable,
1n tho
etablo
11,110nyOUl' fathal'
en<t
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Katb~f
I aon•t Jcnc,,r.
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A
ton' t Jcnc,,rha,r tha\
I
WU,
% Cmmo\ 7llll 11• c<>ro 4et1r.J.to
wu ,mon 'tl:e lf'L' want off?
Wll'I
et,mtlng
:r011l\cr.rl tie
1,"Wl
oraoll: tl•~rot
Y~u
at 7WZ t thel:'f
looking
Yoa. a1r,
A
% ;;o,r oloao irore
(About
1.IUit, whan t!!O :t.o:is•
ahoa\
thr,o
to 7ou: fc.thor.
&a
clDl!lo N
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ltt>
to JOU?
fee\),
J.
Yea. air, Ir~
l:
i!o
fo,r
I clo
l:
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treo tro
• ia
the atnbl• Y
't
tar
Aa
I w •
•~
bore ..
1t 1a
clO';fll
to tho ot. or ,mC of
t1,1a ro 111?
lio, n01; ~ .. t tu,
A
% !t ,..,.
J.
n~ a
"'"'7lvgo
I 4011'1' re c,ber;
.X I• it
an tar
&IS
A lio, 1 t 1• aboo.t
( 1~<>&ti.ng
a-p1e tr •
it 11u a f&irl7
1tY
~Cid si~o
trom he,·• to th!Lt olli of tho t:ible',
a, tar
&n
from here to tbc.t man o-ror t~.oro,
,
% Y011Jeno" r11' ~• tbo g,u·Jam :ten~o wu,
l
QJ1e•
d o:i' t 7011?
Yoa, air,
n.iu
tho troc he
YA
a ,:oo! wa,,, tro:
tlte
&-U'.l.111f e:ic»?
... Abcnt twolYO feet,
%
at.llbloT
% Juds-.
I don't
know,
lloo tar 1 thet t-ir!on tCMoo, do,.,.~ euppoao, troc tho
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A
I don't
X
lhi>t l:..
A
ro want out.
1."8 ahot.7
...n.e a:tt<lr l!ath~
= harur,
o "ent
ie ,;ot our horse e.::i.i lient
on hone, a.'ld bu toneue-J.aahed
us na :taot •a ho oOllld.
on by our ho:i,e toncuo-lashing
us•
ot!lrt
after lie lftW ehot,
X Did ho o,:,,Yanything
r-lght
on to h11 houae without
~;ring
A
tn,of
X
1..1:.
a
to.
!:
Be dl.d not
A
!lo.
I
anythtngf
thoey,
atop
-t•.Ji<t. sat
sJ.l•
thcrJtl> ho waa •hot he dicl. !lot •top talking?
Li.dood, he did not ohoo 1c UJI.
!rl!Ji: OOUR!r; I!E>wns a sroat
ll'Il:!l'lg;JS:
X
or dicl. he
he 414 not atop tllJ.li!:>g.
X ~on
A !lo,
l!o went
A prett7
Yw t'lll'O not atr:i14
tGJ.~rf
sood one.
o:f him wore
:,au•
A >.:rr,,1a or !Ua ton.,-uo,
l.
I?ow lar.;o ••
A .lb011t
•a big
aa thllt
(1n41oe.t1ng
~~ a ooooenut;
X Lo lar8'J
A Oorto.tnl:i, I do.
~
rocu?
th.at
rhoro
n:-e 41ttoront
lcnowllbout tlmt.
X ll'hat kind
a ltlgse,r-he!ld,
or .,,,at?
A
S!!ndetone,
o:t 11 atone
lnohea)
I JMs,t.
you know tho a111 ot a oooos-mxt?
llo,• ttUOh does o cocoa-nut
A I don't
3
WW!
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weigh?
It io not quite
it,
lil!lestone
that
14%'go.
or san4atono
or
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:r: &,ootbt
J. lot
TlJ.:'7.
X A rough lcilliS o! ato,,,,?
"ioe, 111r.
J.
X '!!hat iu tho ollly roolc :,ou not!ood
A Thuro 1t1re plonty
1,h.,re.
wero plonty
:X fhore
&round thoro?
of t!lom thoro?
fbore wore then.
A
X Oen you tell
Ul!
an;,thin$
by
S.'1
1x11<11nationof this
picture?
•o.
J.
t1e=<> is natl>~ng t:.ore.
Bir,
X You.kno11 the stGbloT
I knowtho atable •
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.X Thot 1a tho stoble
and that
te the 11 ttle
18, but it
What it
l'C!:l<llllb
on piotU!'e to w1tneas)
hauso neer tho a table.
is a l1ttlo
houso near
l do not 11:now
tho atablo.
g11t ae tru: ti.e o;· homo vur;
A I doh't
Just
(1nd1e&ting
oft1111 '1,
I lon'L
r.
:;on't you. think th t :i,1at11re ehcr.r~
tho how,e at M cngle tlu,t 4ooa not on11t,
am that gives I!. f&lae ilr'reea1ou?
11;,. ftAI>W:
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~ the biuldi::g
It ahcr.m t.l:e eta •lo
sa near as tJ;o::,
Z
~hL.t ie tho •tablo.
A
Yee,
e,on
got,
You reooe;n1so tbo etablo?
air,
X ~hat 18 tho corn-or1b or ac,OJ,l houoo?
A I
a on' t
kn01, ubout that.
X Tboro waa u how,o there,
wo.en't th•r•?
;;'hon your fat}.er
shot Ur. !.t&th01Q" whore do I 11.'>derator,cl you to S"J' 1lr, Math&Jl7
Wll8:
If you otl:'lnot ah CM
'.:he J>ictul'e.
11e
by tllia
iotur•.
11110'11'
mo outuido
of
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A Liko Florio
to,,=,
go1ug
her,
ld.n.i of a boue
l'.
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loolcing at oy :!'stl1or and telli,'l(f
ho wan r-.l!ll11r,i;.
lfe -;;lit going townrJM Y.Lorie n:1d looking
A Re
"°"loold.n3
X 11ret
, hOlf fnr
was £OinS towa.raa her?
she?
X l!ad co
beolc, talking
,raa
X
to fathor
Plorie
"'nd to us.
yo,:. arq he
was ~ hero 1>t t.lle etalile.
out ~t that
gotte..'I the horse
-;,.,.,., • t
,1 a or not?
tl>o horeo out.
oho opened the ,ioor or wae it before
l!o.d
at yaw, fathor~
Zlorio,
ll::-. llcthen:,- fr®
l:o, ehe had not gotton
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h1ti 1'hat
J.. tlho Tas s~ttL- • the strip
<>ff that
l'IS.8
she got it
o on?
1181led aara11e
the door "1th a 1k!,a.
X
;i.,.,
J.
'fell.
tnr,
then,
he
Wl\8
.,as Jr.
:Jatllony fro,.
ri.;i.t
getti.,..;
F'lor1o'.
oloeo to her.
I don't
know
What tho <List noo woUl.(l. be.
X oula it be aa fill' an that
table or ....,.1,.
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Juat about.
X
!rhat .,u:,J. bo right,
1.
Yea,
tl,ore ba4l< of tb11t
r41l1ng
(115 feet).
m:ntld 1t,
fi:f't
en f,>btT
1r.
X !lo ,
-
Joeeph llath
ay co&ir'<'t dirootl)'
tc-;mr,!9
:,our
•1stor?
A Yee, Sir.
X ll"",
111l11rre
'Ifft& 1=
father,
A. !Io O"'-'O around another
Jr
':'Ji&
orchard
A. Yea, 111:r.
is this
\Ir.
a-- le troe
Vo.nl'elt1'
bellilld. ~.
,my fro::, tho stable,
Wlltheq.
1 owarda
tbe ::-a !?
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Your fathor,
108 -
oe :.ir. llaiJ,11117,r11a going
waa
tOYl'llr a Florie,
book of nn a,pplo trcoi
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Co:ung .. roU?i4 an a~le
X
r:ati,;,ute the i!.iaw,,oo aa Y<ell oo :,oil
fatoer
troo.
how tar 10'-lr
0!:.11
,10.a trOlll Mr. JJathony at thGt til:le?
J.
loll,
1 4o Dot knO<f jua1: hOIYfo.r 1t ,,'1111.
X
!lo•, • 70'!1 ••tLmBted. the othar
A To «bout that
lliet::.nooe.
mon thero.
% Do 1011 .,, r.:1 t.lr.
TurDt r?
A Yea, eir.
% fruit
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is
he n.
t-ile 'Y"''J o! t~•,r:
.i.c.t1-t1.ntd.:.n5t11T1or th~ ~nntrnr~,.,
~ luu Cew t.hat vrhen 701,; tren,t vt: tl'-'":-o ·or ~"•
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• .eiri I lJ'-Vf) l:nom,. it "or yo~.::-tt.
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t1::,·:ming al:ello
in
'tlt.r owirt,
~:1.t i•J n1s 41flTJOo1t:io·1 tfl
.r01·<h~l;o,
1,;i,1"(!-:,1ns
b"~
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t..t h,;r w1tn 1hn eurt"·-oo=ib,
ho t\trncl!
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:t t-: "::~d him of-".
i. all
roe. a:
:,
my 1111'1'1o;ve -: a
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th l 1n
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Q l..!ter you a:iot
fa.r,.Qb~• t ~ .a,'!,cf
0110
t~el•e d.J.~ vrn.1n.";1
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a~ O!'Thing
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•hot
lum, tjien,
where did 1011 go a,,,; whe....,did
he g:,Y
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I told
Jli.m -
1net aa the abootill,-
•N
tol~ hil:I to got ·thttt horee out and got it out quJ.ot,
•one, I
cr.d at thnt
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t~ t!o
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he 11.lld~ lL 1.1:.G!H,... ~.. :lo.ll"G.
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to 1.h::-)" tb~t
7011 tia ~ a.?i:>t";
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!'or tte prote.:,t1cL
0£
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li~gbter,
OROSS-El.J.IIJIJ,i'IO!i llY lJ'l. OT~:
X llr, Vanl'elt, ;au. hcvo hu
7oura, lu. !.l~1..bony?
A
Yes, eir;
trouble
wo hnve l-.nd aor:10 little
X You.wore oontinun..1.ly letting
w1th ti.la
no1r,J-,bo1· of
s;:,nte.
your horae
or oow,
ne u,e
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1t.
y~,. 1.s•~ no <dfort
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or· re,
e!IC l
on
A t~1l,
t~
'r.,·c1, ;:.-,,r ,·t<.el: vp 1! yo,ur-,,,,
hie lt!.!td?
r
str,
LCJ. our obil~ren
rig~i B?te~ tr.a oOl\' and
little,
s11ttlr;6 into
A
$ho cnlz·
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"!ID r.
<'""'"
tt't1 c~.
P~
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tJuJ lWilt t.d:c
C'?'
Zhc tol.4
on tho
~end
thee ~ uc.. e ,iiat I .c,o-,
l'O!: 111='. <,~t,; i\O -~
% ~~i:
X
,:hcr.t:·
thc!1·
tbnt
ob~ OtllllO
at.
r.ot.,
tnn:t :,cu '="crG r.t home aJ.l tho t1me d.1: ins
!ligl-t 1t1or.i-..a1.0 io-c !·
l<tr.i.l:.!'!.l"e
t- .. ·to ,,,,a;, f::-10
hJ;JJ
11.:to :iio:::it con on bue1nu1:1u,
do :,cu not'I'
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a,
e:,,~
1n the :forenoon but there
in tho o.ftarnoon,
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11:lAyan unt
ago 7=
Iratlum7 1n tho publio
Kr.
atst1111ant tl:At
:ro;;. t~st
rolk'l
ho h.s4 IIIIOleabout.
ho had not ea.111 ~h.\Jlg
or •ord.s to tut
ab011t 7Qur cl:ilire::i.
)'0"11 Yant
ut
&bout e=~
hill
7cni.r chtll::-111 111114
he tall!
11M
1.20 --
efftct,
1n • plaau.nt
""',
to ;·cnu- ~ an~ got out. :,o,u- 111&.l.letBIid he loft
aG4 'lrWl-; .,.BY trao
:rau BJl4 you o.tter
h1111,e&:n.11C
tt.Qt
"'fill
no
'
9hould
h1lll thNP.ten1D6
oe.ii :,our ohildr~
to lcill
n liar
,or ao,:e-
'"-' !lo, a1r.
X Yau did three.ten
llr.
)'OU,
'/'Wl cl
ooaa■1on, 0.1.l.n' t
b.1JI on tru.t
t?
A llo, eir,
waite1
to atrike
t ncv,r taoll:leJ him at all.
u.~'til he got b;v me end than callod
&n! I ,;at ey mP.llet
Ile rode b:, 1110end
1>0 a 11/llmoi blaoll: 11"-r
out O'! tho wagon llltd,ot
C"'1rt1e,he l tt.
X An 1 :,on were goi:ng to got h1m 11: he h8'lll •t gotten
A Yea, sir,
awa:,?
I -w..J.d have gotten bit, 1f he hudn't gotten
out o~ tho wn.7.
X
Yoa.hffe
told
pe""l•
in tho leat
1" ~on •v~r got Jlathen.7 :,au w0\ll3. kill
A llat a word o:! thet
nner tb.reotenell
X
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It never
the
i.t,
of
ue J=;v
no other
:ur-; the.t I
ll<'Y
e::1terld lll7 m1.n4 ta kill
You knew Joe ·11t-e harmless,
X Who did
.
I moan to tau
Joe lla<"ir.,y.
A lo,
A
an, air.
t: ct JOU
to ll:1U Joe lrathany?
A Yee, air,
to kill
hi.a?
t ·11 the ga:1tl-.n
lC :Jo ;,;-au aem, to
oou lo o:l' :;ro!ln tut
r throc.te:iall
~
a.a.
ll1dn' t you?
man ltnowa it.
he ever whip?
Be never whi'ppeo. B117b~,
but
if
ho oolllll got o ohnnoo at
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yo1:1 ·1th a rook 7011 Will think
Y \'/ho d1d he evor hit
7011 know.
ho ie ha=less,
nth
u rook?
A I aon•t know of hie hitting
but ho hua tried
m7body,
to do 1 t mighty ofton.
% You h"vo kno;m him for
A
!lo, etr.
X
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A
~ent7
fort;,
"' r.;r, thon?
~be.
X Your bo-.:aeis a little
ho11¥0, ~o, 't 1t•
% lll -Ill
0:\.
1:11m
t.l.u86
=
:rears
to:tl 7ou of
m.tgl;ty hs.rJ. to hit
nolehbot·hood
one 1fh0 ho b -ll hit,
aiy
that
ho is :rugarJ.o,
1n tl10:t,
o=n1t7?
,rnon ho got a. mn ho o ould whip ho ~ tuck to J1lm.
A
lint
X
You nuver """ hii, figl>t with
A lio, I don't
know that
X!tow1"' the fo.ot that
X
b11t ho
on tJ,o ■l&n of
aa e. 1119.11
who 11111 tll.ko to hie h••la
anl is tho big6ost oowar in that
a flght,
tho taz7 of
o=-,,ot tell
them.
Y -u Jeno"' tho :to..t:tbor fact
2
tell
uent7
It f~Joo hie
:oo ua:thany e-ror Btru.cl< 11'1tl, a !"OOkT
ll'o, I oannot
A
trtoi
beyond hia houae\
?tie, otr,
.l
yell.rs?
tho Jur;,, here that
••n
gun 11:!t
th.re
e rna.nho oOlll.d Whip?
I&10.
he 1a a can who woaJ.c!n• t fir.ht,
on Snndq
a:ft&rnoon
to sot ,·01tt horse
with
you took tl nt lo&4ed
tbat
cun in
7011r
poeaooe "11.
J.
rcaon.
3-o
I hllw
I cot.lc!n't
throw
a oripplod
"l":3
roab
and o=iot
yov.
With hlli.
tbrolf
that
roo.'.q.
la tl:e
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A
50,
wo.3
l.22 --
ori
;lei
up in hie
:right
arm wt th tho :rhou-
aat1e!
Of
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X Ia not
,t a fact?
A !Jo, atr.
;you see h1lll thr""
li
roolca ;you "'ou1dn't
th1ru:
he waa or1:rrr>led up.
X
Tell
A
;:vor e1noo I h:tva bocn up thor'e.
111! 111,an
one day r,q oow
ffl\11
you e,;m h1111.
thro>r :roe :1?
outald
in the roaA """' not bothering
h!tr tit
Iler on the 1'&g Ind trlo1lei
l:e hit
Oolllino do,m the road
lln! I lost
hiD C.'td
hety-five
4ollua.
or th.l.rty
r
bot
J.
fbre#
othor
tl'...:a,ring did
he do?
roaka at uv;;rybo~
X 116llle IIZ'Jlo or
he oould.
t.h•. let
ua have the n. eoa of ao:,e ot tho111?
A Ile threw rooks 11t Cr<nor.
18
)l'Ollr
A No, e1r,
11q
~bat
X
brotbor-in-lrnv?
nephn,
X !l'ht>t wu trouble
flley
=
a r0ll4 through
'1Ver
his
the
roB4 quocrt10J1, was it not?
lanA?
A
Yu,
X
l'1111, 11bo elr.ei'
A
Ile throw a rook ot tto
,:m,:o.
X
How long &go has
bomT
A
A y~~ ru1~ o
X
!'Mt bod
•ir.
A llothl.ng.
I
,li
that
half.
;o-.i. done f
I wBB going tor
ho Uu-= at ,ou
A At ce,
O?'
the cow.
the oow!
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J.
Eo. s!.r.
X
ho eluo
A
o~•t
X
!hose
you\
at~
1J ha throw
jun'I. say now,
1 cw,'t
are e.11 you con toll
aay M3body oleo
,lust now,
ua f
.A. Ye • si.r •
.t
You oa.m~'ltp .f1th 7012!' gun 111>!1
,.,,,,_r girJ.s to get :l'OU!"
A
Yeo, ai.i:'.
X
You knew you ha.I had tronble
hone?
Uatl,eny
A
;ou IIOt';r to oose
bed tali
res. sir.
X Yet you
With ll!ltbe?l¥,
011 hie pl.&ae,
and 701:. lcnew
tll4n't
:, .,..
I knowthat,
Ortllad
~ourself
711th tho £'!lll Bnd '"•lkod
Up th •re?
A. Ye~ .. sir.
X
And yoa took 40 m tho bare IIZl4tfont ln?
I.
Yes, s1r.
;,-au go to hie houao An! ask hlln to gi'f& :,au
X 1'h;- didn't
you
horae?
A ?or
the sil:,r.le
lll!lOhiJle "'1i! does
lie
this
Bilt.'e saub<>d.7
ronaon he loye around With hie picture
ptmning
up oi' etoolc to IIISJ:e a living
al••••horee
to pon u
on.
to csn:, :,ono;y to livo
OD,
X
Yen:.th1nk that
A
Y~o, Sir.
X You
l,:n071
tbet. Xrs.
ae!l:1 don, to "hos-ital
:.. Yea. sir.
1• o.n OXl>lt.nntion?
llatlien;y UM ... ~'
810:C' lla'.1116 been
1!I :lo11;th Co.:,,olUU>, didn't
:,on?
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alld
:a,:,cl:l.ne,
ent \IP thoro
b.1osuao he ~
for ;,our horse
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Yea, 81r,
Z
ne t'11!el
.J,.
Yen, e1r,
Qld dl.i not i;o to h1
-ll
=in;;
11ro id tr.ring
thooi in Gu,> le, ""8 them eJ1ut "JI, YOU OotMY
that ia it,
01111 rocognico
aa tlJe oorn•orib
'J e,
.l
thi~
place
a! , tr t 1~ tho rte.bl•
and.
t·
rJgl1t to
the p1otu.ro J.oo~a hr.a ~ p&Oltllar .
:i:'horo II..'<>the ntstlo
orib
'lmt t ey
oorr.-or1b,
1:1& on
t,ds
ptoture;
ora,
o,L1nd tl,o
end tho oornorlb?
A !.oo<a lL<a the .ior •orib
IJU6I
t to bo up
ri,,,t 1a tho wa::, 1t looks from tho road.
stablo.
X 0V ,r to
.l
tt::.,that
to •1 tnone) t
( o.:.m1bit1ns picturft
look ltlto the-,r wero i>otttng
.X
oin. h1t:i•
tho atnblo
a,,
•,'lllen you
orobari
this
Ro oa,o 'Ill' alo,111 tha {lt1rden when I first
X Yo,,
don't
utook to pon 'IIJI?
to got poo le•e
You wore wnJ.ldng ~ •'>ure throll8h
stlW hin?
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a..rou.n4 wlt~ a pioture
X
fir!lt
and
,1.,
ll
e
1,. the pr,!en
!i'ho !!"l"len fenoo o~ht
X It o .,.,.
:fenoe?
to b~ up tl:111
~ 1;,, re a little
"8cl,
r-,, end. tt...a thor~ 1a n pQth
be.ale o:f the houeo or e.ro'IU1dtll• .;ar.ien :fonoo, gain£ buclc to the
houae; it goca arou,,a ibe baclc sido
:front of tho !!011,,a?
O'
<ilo houee ~.nd 00C1ea out 1n
A. Ya • 81.r.
X llhc,n ;,oa went in tbe drUw-bnra W1th
walkt>a Up
h.
,
.::-ou ·h t\ia
It io
rie-nt II)>
J'QUr
two 611:le, '¥OU
Orohord T
tl>ore,
if
700. ool.1 it
a,,
oroluu,a.,
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lJl5 --
th ..rv truoa
1.n thcN
&rul a-:pl•R
growtns
on 4:il~?
c"-l't
::.U have
A Peif a:--ploe tJ, ero.
X ':'J,07 baYo a ..,lea
A I think
X
i,eana.
It
•••ro.
the~· hrr,e.
1e an bumble homo, llr.
'l't:it!'elt,
b".;t "•
,1nero did you meet I.Ir. Jlnthony1
A ?.11,ht in at
.I
'..!on moi,n e.t tho corner
A .lt
r
a plo troe,
t,lu,t
ll~crt
a,ot him at tho corner
~
Aw 11 bl;Ol: e:iero
.\
Jot
"'"7
f,:,ic
"'•t i".im?
You :;"-1 , ""-
tl'ee.
I in41oat1ll6l?
01111
•t you see tllnt
WDl"back then.
Z \hloh
11:ndioltting),
the oorn-ortb?
A 710, et tho anple
I
there
right
,ou >rhen 7 "
•er,
o:! that ehantJ·
ot the.t com-crib?
the:t 1.roe baci< thore,
How far
<lt tho oornor
the
a,- le t:r,io?
hnuae!
~
':'hll.t 1r&7 (inliom:ing)
X
You mOl'.nbnck town.t\la the ,·o.a.t
Cro11 th
a ;lo
tr "·
A 110, 1.he a ple tr1•e 1B b;oi< 1n frO!D tbu honae,f.rom
llere
ro!.4.
1o a path
11-lldl:e r.u:s IU'Oun4 through
th~t
the
1u,an he
l'llna in heN.
apart wero ;von YJ>on ,o~ eiet
X
P.ow fer
A
So:,eth11l8 like
from Jlore to the r1111.
X 71.i'toen tea1i !lpnrt;
ho snw yon?
A
:um•,
that
th& first
I G!l;Vh1i:, 00111ng up by the
ti.me y<YU.saw him tr.Dd
l)&rdm.
:C Rt.i ho seon :,ou?
A I don't
think
he hll<l.
X Did ho sey anything
to 1on?
A
thing
Uo, sir.
The f1rat
ho eaid
ww, when ho scy1the
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ho co;: .onaed onll 1:lg n111nea.
J
l!e
up
00cJa3
~ is
1>..,,;, pc.th and who!l he gets
'!oet tror.: 71111.or the dlat1U1oe tro::i hero to ',;~t
th
tbiz:g
first
rail,
fltteen
wlJD.t lfne
h• aa.id?
He, 94w tneso
A
•1th1n
X Ho oillod.
gi::.-lJI ond called
the girl•
ugly
A
Yea, 01:r.
X
;l,ere ,1oro tha girl•'<
A Ona \\' '3 ,;atting
tha atal)l•
tl1om 11!1!DOD.
:na:lt&Y
C>J)llll
and thu <>thcr ,,•,e oloae
to me.
tar war, you 8Ild the girl apart 1Vhowns tr:;1"6
e>pon the stabl• 'oor?
not
:.. I don't know. You oan, eoo tl!" f.rur:i tha pict111••.
1
llr•
R=
btlolc to whcr" thut
C:llll site
!Cre. lli:e;,,
hO\f far ·,ero you from
7011.r otlrnr dste;llter;'
J. Slte wnn et:mdln;;
I Wldoratoo4
X
(:ln'lioe'\ine;J.
l1lco 18 or 20 foot;
X That ie aoiottll1nt
to
olu o to .,.o.
:,ou to e""° to ISr. n ; .er ti. t 70-c. o<llll.d not
• .,:; o• 70,u, o.m roowledge
Bn:,thir:11 nbou.t .:tr. ll:.,h9n7 moking
Ail
11,ttaok on !.!ra. !Tize7t
-
ll<>, a1r.
X
You don't
WI :TO\ll'
A
om
lcno.1whotbor ho llUlde811 ntt'-'Q,: on her, so fer
a:uonw. l<no..'1846• 1a ocncer.aed t
I 41J not notice
tli,:.t
% Yer-..,.df.U;;h.te:r, then,
at oJ.l.
""" ul' hero towar.le
A Yos, sir.
X
ilr:',;
A
Jlo, sir.
h~ tall
;ou to get tho borao out?
tho stuble?
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you that
you oou1d tllke the
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X
lot
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Jo. su.
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wt1l
after
th,
after
you uhot?
v.ac done,
shooting
to ua; you Aro :f1 ·toon foot
to t,87 n::,7trdns to 7Cltll' dsughtora
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1'iell, he ea1d that
X
t1a
A
I don't
,:
Y<n. l'IUllld not ,,ey that
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3o, I "ould
&J>art, 1'.tl.4 ha begun
or to you,
tllon?
pa.at me 1 :,,ea, air,
118 ho rOJl u" there
not ;you Jloar hJ.111
toll
,.,,llnot
to troap,ieaon
h1lll before
thatl'
I do1't
bor tliat
nt all.
he d14 not
not eo,;, tllt\t
"""'olllber hearln,•
X Ha"
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ho did.
d14 j<>u 11nvo tt
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"!!no'int d07111 b,r
l:
It \tns cookad ll1l4 rea,cy to ahoct,
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!fa, not oocked.
riu.se4 or in a p03i tioll o! def@ae·,
'DJ' e!do •
,u it notY
Bild you did not .have to cook 1t.
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You have to oook 1 t,
.X
/her, diJ
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~hi girl a as:, he did,
gun no :r-,11went tbrou.;IJ the
orew,rd;
A I don't
you OO0..rit?
Jmor, myself
Yaa bed it lo34oi
11'!11mI dii
ooolc it.
bai'oro ,rou brought
A Yes, air.
X You ~11 not htte
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Sir.
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it.
oro :,ou oarr;cl:r.3 that
X It was Untom,;tio
t
to put 1n cny 10"'1':
it up?
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tho ,jury JJroi,pted you to el100t
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ile~luse
be wa3 :,eac:,in.:;
:,: 11hen !le ••
111 fe"t
:tor a roolc ~o ld t rq d~to:r
fr=
:,cu end h=
with.
fo.r :trom ¥Ottr doni;hter?
l dot.' t Jeno".
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:,<mz dOUg1>te.r, lliUS Florie,
X Ho;-; fo.r h,o·
i1l5 to get th
1101•00
who """
t17-
out at tho et1.bl■ f
J.
About i.a f _ aa from bore to ~ 11t po,,t -- tl:o l"4t
X
You moc.n from here to that
JL-.=
ther~.
poet
about whore Ur. :Boor:y is
a1tt1na1
Yeo, air.
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L
(About 12 feet),
o• l& toot
frOl!I
u?
Ye:, ai.,
.X D"aoribo,
1
you OM, 1n Juat 1'hat posi t10n l!atheny
"11 ll you f1rod tho ehot?
t1011 o~ L!athoey,
A I.e ,,.,._..atooping
Indioat•
d•wo tila
,,a
with ;vaur body the Ol:Mt poe1-
··"""7 ( .l.ndtoati:'!$1
rl>Col!illg :tor
a rock.
X ~ou
1 am 1.:athony 8J'I! otoopu,g
wh11t ,,,.. your poa1t1onf
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I was e to.-i.t.l.ng up etrSight,
X
H.,..- di<l ;1ou llave your sun?
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r
X
I am at<>uJ>1,,J
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Yea,
1:1141 t up t.'iat -.7
now
poa1t1on
shot
C1nd1c ting).
ll<>lr.
alr.
X Do you moan to tall
11.114tho shot
down for e rook,
lodged where it
tho jui·y
did?
, in that
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r~!
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sir,
1 n
Ba he4 h1a 11neore ~uat•bout
~r it,
too.
% Jl11 1,. u7
A!Q'thing
to 7°" aa he ato
Wo, sir: ha ma.to theea thl·••ts
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bofore.
,. a wor4 ••hon ho stooped
o
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r.ot so noar t ·• gll.rdcm tono1; Jm;.t-n;v l> t ocm th• ge?"~on
:tenoe um t!u, eta.bl•.
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Ualf-•,q
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"!eo, air.
b twa1111'.:ho £8,rdG'll fGDOI ""
X 1>14 ho aakt
Ji. told
th•t
1a all
X Kn.
.l
:io.
thoc
mr;, th=•~ta
tol1
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he """
to got out of tho~
or ho caul
!:1 •7
"1l't atll.'tir.g
till.
to go 1n the ,tnble,
hor.
n
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wa.a i1of
nir,
a for t!am to~••
her to
out af
- t out of th!U'eT
ot 1:11 plaoo,
'\!:<>&.
X
to hit
h• .,,,_14.
X ~hlft he O0111.inot toll
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b.at 414 ho thro1ten
to do vtth
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rou cl14 not f!oot
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-mcr.i,
l! ;rou hnd etru.olc
lr.tt,
J.D ';b.o ?aa.!"'t, it 110 J.. 11,,..., l<Ul"i
ai,
wt
m or l:111 leK,
•~ h1a
srtor7
or a ln:s~
'rein,
J'Oll shot
or, o. 11 ttle
hiA"
A I ~on•t know about that.
You 4111 not o .·c '!Cotl<or 7'
JI. It
41l r,ot c.t,t.ar J1iYmll1d to kill
X .liJ ;'Ill tcy,
1fould not k1ll him?
J.
X
not?
kill
..g o~ 701.,. g:m ~o Ilia lt so it
1'l tho eid
I <!.1dn't.
.Set Jart1olll..r,
You vore not part10ulli1"
A I wouldn't
.1m.
l'('nether ;vou k1Uod bim or '17anld
Wllll• to ltill
hin, at aJ.l.
l 41J not moan to
.ha.
~•1& oom·t,
Do I= \oret'm! that w on""'' ats.rte,1
frOD your bO!:le to go u~ to .llr. ~tlu1117'e
JOU
t:00".IB!it:,wr ,:?in,;
l1nbl~
li'!llll:jS:
!Rre CmlRT:
t1on?
:'IX'.:3:
thar<t
'10:11.4 bo
to br1,:,·· on a d1ff1oLU.ty With l!icf
YoR, air,
All4
;,-cu took tho gun for Y<>lll'proteo-
Yea, 111r, that
1n rlg.>tt.
!HB co: T: ••11, 414 :rou1'9Blile
that 7011 might
kill hilil or do hu ser1oua 1n,:U17 •1th the
pn?
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aer-1=
1'o, eir;
I d1<i
not raaan to do hio any
1nj1117 •t ell.
YOUhad a rish ~ to go
proport7 "'M b.-1na on
in "llicc 70!! :n;;i t bnvo to
'1'11,;COIT.lo:!. D1d you think
t/,aro And. s~t
"41t''1clll1.;r
a ...1oo t h.1Jlt?
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:fO-JJ:
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lcno• al)o t that.
rocJ<on I 414.
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;,our gun?
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Uie ~ ,rlo \aeo.
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YCol>414 WtJJlt to !Jave tlle applo
troo
b,.t,,e •n yr,u. ,_
your
enoi::1,7?
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l:'iJ ho l\Ave • ru.;;?
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aa;v ,-o.iltlvely unut tllat wo.e,
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<io nav.ir
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utt,impted to hit you with
the ct>rt"y-Ot'!!Jb?
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r. n•••ll,.e
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o~1 t .:no-.r aa
rot 017 thn~.
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t~u a -oito oft"~ -P.;'••t~t!C'.'l or - j!· ~~ ,~ ior g<>ttins
intu tr'!u•,1,: 11· r,.rJt U: t !i ,ltcil to :a oert in trottblc thti.t
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J:ot
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Joe i.;,tne,,.-
o ,,,,.~11 nm 1:.'. ho got 1.n a 41:f~ioul ty, and tbnt
ho wee
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one of th& bi5 0 ost ocr.v!U'du in the Ottobin9
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out of the
:r Jlo;v, whnt othel'
other
wt,c,t
hi•
8.7 w!!en lie ;;eta up n rt.olut.
:U.tfiouJ.ties
outside
have ;rou ever hollri
d1ffioultiea
o:' be
OrO!!ler f&r.!117 --
of .Ilia lll;.vt114 11'1th
nel(;hborar
.t. Bo hM a di!fiClil.ty
With llr,
Long,
,:
'!'bot 111 the t:an1.lomnn who l1voa
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Yas, sir •
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Iba t w11u th•t
st;
tho hO!l.!ls there
neor
h1111f
0.1v ab out?
A Ovor thu ~o<l.d., poa 1h17.
X Ro dill. not vrant
A
tl10lll
~hat le th. diffioult;r
.t Prom tho roputation,
Junt
11
to toke his lt1n<1 fo,:- t,u, 1"-'My
ho hoe with Oromor,
wee thnt
n porQo,.lSJ. d1f:C1oulty
or
q'Qat':,,l?
A I thin;,,
junta
quar~el.
X It wa, not n fight?
A
I don't
think
it r. .a a fit,;''t.
X no , nbont t.oa ton;; d1f:1<n.J.t;i,,
A
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It 11118a-;
= tho
wb&t
WllS
tho n:itur
~hat ""'3 Jest a r.uiior.
rocd.
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not
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is
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to,
to n..:ior,
am ~ ac
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loith
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goOd Uot,.,,oe,
llhat ;;<>'.>era
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not tl:ut
! know of,
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l!r.
roolc:I &t 11r. l!&tleDY,
bad :,on not?
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bitter
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or tbet
aon:::im1.t1 bevo lul4
aa tho blltt o~ tlle1r
't t
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bo19 bolla.raA
at
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rd that
T.::::?lllt
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tbr..tend
to k'-11 2:1:t
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tpod
they had l<Do d1.t11oulty.
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tor truU,
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t a oc:::n.111tr;
in t
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tru.t bie reputatloll
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here,
waa not hor NJr.1tOt1cm for truth
lll!l>e
t.ee
111••
nori•
I think
X
I
ai:
the
ein3t
t eoo l'.a., told
&!lo bAa oon.'luot 4 bonel:f
l ln!Yt
llh1ah
r4fornd,
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t thine
■ o,
r.
Brl!oonter,
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• ab Gilt
h1r rei-utat1on
for
t;yt
■tans
a
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-:m. toat11'ie4:
m:ni:;D,
Dr, Be:,dler.
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er ..
g:snt.l .... Cl,
1tne.3e told to
D3, 11,
· .,t I m:,
s:ld I Cl "'8Jcl.n{f :rou, if
&!tor ~hat oo;;i;rrmoe it 11 not a fGot th:.t
truth nn~ 'YarllOlt:; w.e lllhllkm ill the o=n~
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to
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pr11Gti,1DG
b7a1o1l'D, r0ti1d1n;; at
I boliovet
Y0ti, 111:,
Q Yo,,. eJ.110practloo
'114 llr.
for
al".alccn ln tl:et co, nnit:7
not Aa1dnG
7ou 11.l.ong tl:.st line
•• to bor
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extent Y
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au1,'iJ
of
him, would tber•~
tho troul>lo took ple.oe t
tnth
to
goo4; arter
,rcruJ.4 not lielieTe
fO'.i
Vonl'olt
'1n llbloh u,,. IDt.thenJ'
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ill tho •==·1t7
~oneht.vo
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ooplo of th t
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f
;you lalo,rn 11.r. •lllll'elt!
JC, 0~:
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h , tho 611n rel r ei,11tut10n
p10
lo is 1<,r tr. th 1n tl.~
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c"
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=
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probabl7
&'b01>tur. UOCIOlU' for tlee lut
little
axoo:tl.Jl8 'llhat I heu fnlll other poo_i;le.
w 1 8 'llho.t I
ae:.:inS, what o\.her peo lt .,
:,
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toet,
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other
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oontent:
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now bo"~
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a truU,tul
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into
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1rr1t&b1e
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a 11 ttla
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Alli! ·U,oyo oontroTort1ea
tl, t took 11art of hie lon4,
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reopl•
111 t ct ho 1
':he 1::
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a littlo
b1<i1'11&!:.tmT
lln1 that
aboat thnt
■1th
w,w
ro~
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the Cro,iorw
aaa1
m.rr1e4
aon•t c01r,
1ror4 al:iafl;r
■ tr.
I oCll'lc't
:,uit
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1fert.
% Tau 4on',
Z
"1th
You
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l>!l;'bO<\J', •t
re::ie:,.bor
■bat
tba ~~ntroTeralr.i
11,o.rd ot h1a gottlf16 into an; per:a::llal ouoo tor
<>rT
A Jlo, Bl!'.
Juzt n<>1ghllor J'>. t
I iieat\1
or tbroata
..u:,,-cu ui.ter.;tand,
ae lnat
ht 1:184•
I loarnod
poo l• ot the o-=:i:J.t::,.
:r Whioh thre~t,
.l
ffot to
wuo?
Ill;,
ho IIGTor Ollrtlod
lcnowle•lgo, no, e!r,
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hie
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ut tlon :~
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at hi•
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undo::- oa'Ul 70 ,
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t
A llo, ~1r, I lU. not until
on, o1noe
lC You ■
X
givon
IA?
1.
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11 t •
f.n
,1eka.
cnrnrds
tr-tel!
for ~nth
or l.:.1n r1or1•,
hu b on ..ale.,_ her by Ill-. Jla;m:er tt.1,ot e
bt acquA111tet;
ha.a not tor reputat10!1
OO<r.U'N!lCB
tbe lut
auout the rfl)utatic,c
-P•llk1ni:
fP•tlon
tlwl
aho hAl1 of wlullh 701.1aro n~ 4
00
felt
Wl:!.Dc<>Od;
w11oN h
e~1ruo, 1foul4 b
, Van2olt
h
ti:~?
llr,
1o=i
tur
L'1
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, vor hear 1 hia Yeraci t7 qum:Lo!al.
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like
hlaT
tl18T. :to
aJJ.Ye s"16
l"".n
t~r
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trll~
o trouble
i...,a that
.. - n in tbLt
:ci't)'f
,-ow-tniu,
A ~ooa th1nga o,m o~ov wttl:o'Ot injuring
or
Yl~lt7,
X
l aa not &alting 7011 Whetber
cnn; 1
thq
aa1<1nc :,ou
it 414Y
wt•tber
A
Jlot to
X J.o &
of tta,e
io
bnlo>li;e.
lt
414 not,
ttor
o • f ot, 4o ;vcr.1r.nll.7
lc',ow tile r".P'llt tton
a;irla
"11' t1"1lth 11!14vor.oolt7
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o 1•rf
X llre.
"iz•1
t arrt•1
moved over 1.o Spr1n;; Oroelc?
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au
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one~
or tho
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tc
7aa:ni olil,
that
1a, !lrl!,
lt ■on
at home 4urtni;
c.:b
'«1th ,.,. , l•
II.DA40,,.•t
rerutattona,
do 7ou:
A
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OTer
at h01110Tory tmah tr->1:1
tl:o 11::>a aho •aa
1 'bol.10T1 •h• 1111111.
tholll;h •h• '""'
neict,bor~ood,
ple'a
'•a.
tho "11.1le, Wet 7ou don't
r""'1t&t1on
with tl ooe pooplo a .;reet
1• th1a:
don't
t,-t •Al rc:le;
Bo :vou do not rdl.l:r
'U'lal17
a...'ld Tff'l.Cit7
bow Wbci their
~-
at
TOrJ IIDdh
ceara>. rqu\ation
1af
:uat ... f 8D14; I n•VIU' hallri
lu:lllOD::S, r.rorn,
Ii,
f,
4
You are • dep1it7 uher1ff
.l
that the JIIUl:6 g1:l
81r,
110,
1tne:,c toll\ to atlinf
Ottobine
vor,
ono .,a;v or tho other.
A Bel> an a
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oo::io 1n orntaot
thor•.
l>"-9 With her J)Ol>:10 11:JI llllrrl14
for t.:uth
r olcu11, 1'.Da
k:oaw .-~r:, omoh abcr.i.<;thlll:lo JOW::g pe:i-
I ooce in ountaot
tir;
around in tho
.a Kiaa n<>rl•. I
!!1107;
X l'/bat :,ou •·IL'l to II~
r
--
it (UBetiGU06.
utde.
ieat1f1e4;
or tho a<1W1tJanll 11vo in tbo
•~t1onT
■ 1r,
Yoa,
Q l!aa
far to
)'Oil liY ■
fraa Kr. litathCQ' an4 J:r, V=elt
heref
J.
Little
ovor • lllil.o, probiQily
lonehave JClll lrnoW11!Ir.
ll1••none ._-nKre. J:J.••7'
11
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llow
.l
fb•lr
Q
Dai ho;v 1ans hi.Ive :;ou m01111tb•?
A
I !:&'re l:no'70 l!r.
rttpUtai1on
011,
m4 a hnlf.
V,ml'GJ.t .,,
his
tlro 481lgl:iere,
1• goo-1.
Vc!U'<,
I reol<<l,i, fifteen
7'!-re.
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r-i,utattan
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'lhat
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Why, J.1, 1a go"'1.
•• a peeoe&blt,
Q 'lfuat 1u Ute r8jluta♦.:1on of llr.
daughtor•
:for tra~h
law-11b1d1ng c1t1•en?
Vm1el t h=•
Cl4 h111 no
1n tt1>t oamc.ru.nity?
A
I n,,v•r hea:,,d it
Q
1:o-.G.;J 71111beJ.1tYI
,111uGt1onod.
IThat tbOJ' 1111.id;..-4,or o th,
lcncmtng th•
as you do 11
Yea, atr; I ~~uld tGva ~o.
A
C~3 -!:TJJln'A\'IOl! BY IG. 0~:
X hrot wottld 7011 •11¥ as to llr. lllltllony, whvt ta hia reputation
for trut.b lllld Y•r110it7 in that oa:.:.untt:, in 'll"lloh ho
liTooT
It ls
A
od.
:Z: ll'ouJ.d ;,au boliov•
:1.:1 w!io;,
hu
A
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What ha e•td tmde1· one, in s trifi.l.
1nterc:rtMt
elr.
X Iloqyou hu. pen to kn011 ,that tlle fooling
has been t,n,._,.. •
·r. !lbth1U1Yt
.A l'lo, air,
X
A
here,
I do n~t.
lillo.t 1• the reputation
1a-.-a1,1ung
sn
1n l.ia
o:t Irr.
nCICDD1~;r.
lf
Unth&117 ••
11'U la,o,r
a penoeable,
it?
Wb7, it is Yen, good, exolJ'~ lU:e ••mo oth~l:"J etat~
he hae haJ
.X
of !!r. VoaPalt
BOl!lo
rou mDCQwith
little
d1-ffioultiee,
hta n11t;:Jlor•'
A rea, alr,
••~e lJ.ttle
X ~ he ••
r h11otnn.' ,l>?rato!U,l enc<r..Ltor■ "1th
d1f:N.oult1aa,
~
Wo, •11'; I nGYer he rd ot o.n::;,.
X
Ever hoar o:t ll.tJ isott1:ag 111to :tifl]".t11'
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m-.y ~ne'j
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All
illero,
1i
u
01· fae t,
tll&tttl"
in he uoi;,
(lnd
lLO 11:1 ree-ar<ted
(Le,
~
u.a.n r..!:io "Oulo
A Y"'"', ::d:- 1 CTe:r t~e
\w'os 1;
1JbifU'ly with
Vun'P el t curried
A
over
1ig4t'f
o,.-u• tn.
ro.a.o. tho.\
aie
•e
Cx-o ■ er
~
roo.C.'f
,:, t ..roue;.t.. ht.a ~lEl:::e.
1aatly
or ...-hoa ll.r.
on,'r
no 010 nave ftOJJle trou'ble
<with
kr.
Cromer
tt1at road.
over
tLe road •
.X .But he r:-ever went
t:noc:Jco
1',l
nl!Yer got. 111to ony
Y..Aliilill.!R:•hk t 11 !~lL'~ rtrpu t.a·~1on for ruck
,,.h.ro'11n11 ur- ~here "11c::nh'l ,.,.,,tn into
a ...1 .. t:aJ.t ...ca'?
l don't
tit11""v•
~hrrwlny
not. ewen.r?
rooll
arc o.~
I e\.f"r
11...
his
at a1ty one.
( Q.ueo t1 on olt,l ec :ed
THE COUlt~·~
X
re
to any knocke,
Wt anyuody.
~.
tlave you ever
X 'fou have, lived
A Y~e. eir.
,
not
o. co~rd.
Yoe, air.
X Wore t}-.ol!lc d1apu ,..e; cu1cil:,:
X
ae beirig
been
1~ hi:: u. sw~nrt,,,
t.i.>lJ,
he. ewee.ra or no t.'f
in hit.
hous~
In tJ1ut co11Gunity
yo,J. knor ... ,hcther
tr~qu..,nt.ly?
tv-<nt)'•fl\-•
or
tt.lrt:,-
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X Did ;you ever
A
1 ne"Ver heo.rd
rl!et•I
told
.,eJ11r. all
tr .. U11D c ae,
int:rod.uced
rei. tc.r.
lii t:ne.~•.
~
evidence
rt tte
tt1a Cor..1nonwealtl1
a..'
11ccu11ed, hi•
counae.l
to t'u.rtJ1e.r euatain
life?
oi .. er~4'1 to
tt1areuron
the tnd .. rtm~!111t.
teotla.ony
iu rebuttal.
Ca:-r:,·
no~ l.l-.
A
.tone Qunrrr.
Q
,/hen did you ~ve
A
,\bout
Q
TJ,are: dld you 11 Ye be·rore
Q
ntrod•..1.c,ed,or
t.i e rolloWins;
ere do you liTe
1ut"Von
A Close
in your
aaide.
to stand
tJ1e
on lie ,alf
'be ini.l'-oduced
an oath
rnrur.
bia
ll'l.tn•••
'nil
nlm ••ear
llear
Curry?
t.her~ ol' 1<bout '11!,er,?
uan u11 ago.
ou aoved
there?
tc apr!..~E C~•ek.
Did you have ooc ... ton
to be wi tn
».r.
1,1atlkny
and ";rk
for bi11?
fol" him. IOHl:t bOd Wl\rkt-d .. 1 tl1 b1u ,ome.
A
l futAed
Q
l>id ~·ou eYer r,•a..r bi.a, ,,.,.~art
A ••o. a1r.
Q
1!11tt about
l&W abidln.
t.o "treak
knew him
••
ll
11eaoeable
aar>
and a
the 1 .. ..- 1 n any way t.hn t 1
of'.
,,,.. 'l':hrtt do Ue
hi•
r~utation
man?
A l nevor
knew
hle
in
L'l t coic..:.mi+,:
A
Alt tar
~
No'ft' Ur.
generally
1111y. now do they
.a. ;e.aceah"e.,
l&w-a:tt1d.1n.r m.n?
~eoplt".
••
ae l kno•,
Curry.
th.ey r~;:1rd
hia
regard
a.a au.ch..
d.id you come down there
ehortly
before.
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tnio
~1rr1culcy
we a,-~ in~eagUratl-r,r?
which
lu1ppen•d
A Y~a, al:.·.
1 t hsn•<mccl?
Q. llow l.onv bofor-o
A
l
<,i Uovr did
A
,.,ae. on 1•,:-td>ty rvf"'nlnt.
t'L-1.nk it
to Como th~re
you happen
1 m:Luted. a tap off
of
wagon un ti..tere and J v:-ent up
Uta~ le
~
t-he Tea1on
why
&
on )'t-1dA}'
ws ~on skein,
ther& to get
~v~nln
-?
ar.d h-e h;:ad, an old
ot it and
a. tap otf
l wtle tnere.
Wae. s:ha.t. t:.o .rrldo.y
ev~nint
be-fore
U1e Gunday or1 which
! ..1~ iaboo t.ir,t,:. ocau.rrtid.'9
Cl ':.'.o f'lnC ~:at
e~ll!Unatlon
to eat
•
1 ti ncceaeo.:ry
tor you to ma1'e an
of t.: e pre:-.de;ea &bout th~ at.able
it
lt.£&inet
I wa~ lookinr
Q
tap ••
to
u_e.,.
n cold
eltlee-1
o.nd orcJuu·d?
~.~
to ja.r
ta
looae,
for n piec~ of iron .
Jlid you eee eu1r rco~o
t.1 er•
Cli'OSS w\l!lllATIO~
X
~ae anyone
A
no.
nir,
out
hie
t.here
daurht•r
en the £rour.C:9
llY ltf,
R.t Ul.at
HAtl <;Jl,
time
wa& do1m to
witla
you?
the
houee.
a Wher• dicl ;you look for tbe rook•?
A I mi.en't
look1nr
!or
rocka,
I waa looking
for¥
piece
of 1ron.
1.. You d!d riot
took for
any rocke
at all?
A li1:t, elr.
the
ground
nt all?
A There werf! r.one th.at I aaw and l ._.
aro~d
h1a corn
en~
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cr1'b.
Q. What 111 i.r.
t.;.w.theny'a genert\l
u. truthful
A lie is
A
I no"fel" lleard
--.r1t.neeo
C.Y.Beerd
W:.ere do you live
A
.( li ,e,
~
You live
A
Ye8,
How
bl\rdly
but
Were you
Ui~.
t:..a
a
know mere.
Creek?
to :<Uehville.
C. ltntheny?
or a llile.
frequently
e.t lilr.
11.at.heny's
A
:tee, e:i r.
(!
How lortr hnve ycu known hu•'
A
All
truth
rc-r-ard
him.
do you 11-,e !ro1& lir . .roe.
hi:nae?
rsy llfe.
Q. Do you kno"
for
COSIU.Oity
~eard~
not. cloae
A Three ~uarciu
Q
ae 1 know.
to oonlc~
ll.r.
Sprinr
nenr
fo.r
ti-uth
t~tsti!"ied..
~
{l
tor
to a ta.2,d o.eid&.
e.?toro,
~1r,
1n th.nt
anythir:r
tolt
r
a~ ftlr
mAn,
"'- peOJllC
re;)ut.tit.ion
l.!s
&nd verucity,
ceneral
nnd ii
reput-ot1on
eo,
1• it
in that
co:.unity
good or bad?
•
A
Good.
{l
Do you ~now h1•
:1•a peaceable
and. la•
£ener&l reputation
abid..ir.c
aor:.
A
Good.
~
Do you know who th er or not
A No, ei~,
he ie not.
if
ao,
in tr.at
co.,,.unlty
111.11. 10• '1 or bad?
he ie s 3wea.r ins 1•n?
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Q. Did you 4'Ver linvo occoelon
~
lrt l-,.1a ore~r,d
erd#
U1e e-round
t.o no ti-ee
t:.baut
e.~
fei,ce
b~tween
•ta.bl~
•~d cor .. c:ib,
on e.. :b~r
of tho yard !once?
oido
A
Yt-a,
sir.
the
the
£a.?'deri and
the
otl>ble,
q
:>id you ,.,..er eeo 01"1 rocks tl.ere9
A
llo, eir,
q
IIAYO
A
Ye~, &ir.
(;,
Did you look
""" any
you looked
A J;o, I Ju•t
nnd 1 look~
1 never
rooks
at t..'tla rround
th.ere.
I.he ehoo ting,
eince
aee .,,l ..oth er the.re were any rocket
l,o
looked
a sood fflile
a.ny how.
1 h d •eard
to 1se, if
there
•re?
a i::ooa deal
wer• o.ny rocke
o_ it
U,•re.
Q Were you 1t tho call-trial?
at Duyton.
A
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Q.
You h~ar~
cround
&0,1te'lmerfl
at
Pn6 'Yl'Ol
e reaohod
A
Y•a, air.
Q
You Ttere t.here
A
Yea,
sir,
t . ..a: tl 'lre were rocka
trial
tl~t.
at.tu
a.fter
tre
for
call
and }:,-Jo-rr bo:.
It Did you look for rocko before
A
ttai
on t.:.o
t duy?
trial?
.
tho.t
trlt1l?
no, 2'1r.
Q. But ofter
t.he call
tr<J\l
you did
look
for
rocke
&round
tl,o.re,?
A Yen,
C:.
&ir.
Did you o_.,. any appearance
wner~ rookft had te~n re)!ll)ved?
A No, 11ir.
in
tbe eod there
indica.tln~
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Ye.a. eir.
la aod tllel'e
l believe,
old
orchard
CHCSS 3.1.A...l~A'..'IOII "::I )..'it. HA.
X
Junt
l!lc:e 1.. A
rt,at
f!
rocka
of
up In that
tl e co"J.nty,
ere
aorr.e a.round
lil'~
\eft,
old
thf': couJ:Jt.y
of
.er-e t.ue:ra not?
btheny
plaoft
1~
too?
11-tr.
wuon ht'i ne
A Jfo,
c:a.n, have .:ou ~v,-r ,e,.n
DIAd?
I don't
t1air,
X Did you over
h.1e
p.art
'"18n Joe
X You aay ho ia not .o..cure:inf
h1w
"'!.
Oert&inly.
X
A
eo■e
"' .ere are
aod?
th.ink
he la h1..tdly
eee him ancry?
teJ:ario1·? When he would
How about
a 11 t tle
get
t.n1~t kind
huffy.
tt
of tt t11.n.n.
t?
How i•
woa he onre(lJl
1n "111 t 1.e enid?
A l al~aye
t..
aaw h1m about
You never
the eA.t:le thlnr.
aaw him when he tt.ae mad?
A Jio, elr.
'Ii tneoe
URA.i
told
aaide.
PA,J'L. &1!:orn. !..est.1.ficd.
q Mr. l'Gul,
A Yea.
YO'" l.i"te at
CttGbh:e?
a.tr.
Cl. How, far
in
to • tand
is
that
fro-a a.r.
Joe 1:a.U;er:.y•e t.ome?
er:d of a milt:.
A
1 e-upt:ioee t..s~e bit
~
How lonr
A
I don' t know how .r;L(l.rJY
yeare.
~
Do you know hie
hr....-e you known Kr.
t.nnt oom~.uni ty,
A .l don't
good w1 th mo.
eer.eral
and. if
Y.o.t1 eny?
Since
reputation
he ,rae a boy.
tor
truth
and •~roci ty
ao le 1 L fOOd or bn.d?
know a& 1 ever heard
it
aueetioned:
it
Yoe e1lwaya
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Do you kno1r h1:a r.eneral
Q
with
r.,.r.nrd to being
A lea,
air.
a. peaoeu.ble,
l n~v~r
nwea.r an oath,
1n thAt communit.Y
int- man?
law-abld
I h.ive not heard
q W•w.t about. hie Lein;
A
reputa.tton
t1.. the
anyth!nr
man. is h• a e.-.-artng
a eweartne
lllm D,tea.?" gen I.le.men.
hcat"d
l n<"''fet heard
~ve knv-.n him. I expect,
ant 1
Q. lie i• a ""'" about
three
f1tty-
)'OU ha'To :.mown hl■ about
y~u.r•
fU"t,y
contrary.
.er
~Lill\
y~are.
!iftj
ole end l ••11 ,ve
Year•
anyhow'?
A Yee, air.
Cll(JSS IXAIU
X You know 1.r.
A loe,
X
!or
j)o
!IY :.P.. 1=.
here,
too,
do you not?
e1:-.
you )u10w hie
renern.l
in trrt.
retutation
cor:m.unity
t:n.n.1,
A l n~ver
X
and
Vanpelt
Tlor
heard
,low about.
it
quea ttoned.
t.n.e reTlut.o.t.1on
.J.se flor-1 e 'laq,el
t ~or
l n,.,-yer ""en?'d t,t.4-t
A
t.n••~
told
truth
of h.ie
in
q_ueaUoned
that
dBU£htere,
11tzey,
kre.
COMl'::!\:ni
ty?
1 don
1
~ think.
to ,tRnll aai<I~.
1'11
EDGARJLATH'QIY,eworn and te~ttfiod.
Q
Kt
:.lte ttround
wH4ther
h#.•• you had oocuion
1i.r. htlH1ny
bohlnd
t,..ere ar•
Ur. Jlatheny'e
acy rocka
arour.d
house
r-.ce.s !.ly
tc loolt
and h1Ei •table
to aec
there?
;., Yee, eh·.
Q
A
,o-w recently'/
Since
April.
Q. You were not
A
It
wae "lonr
t·,ere
ehortly
about
April
b~!or-e. tltie
that
ahoo U?:f"?
I remeri.ber beine,
tt~..re
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Di.t ttrt,1.hlrt£, call
whtt tht,r
t.1 ere
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loone but
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link
1.
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not t'ind
OOU}(!
cd :-.C'
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cart.
knot,
"'f"C
any
....
.- .er'"
WI\.&a chain
There
and l
chllJ.n with
1 lo ·"t;.,d aroW\'!.'
Q. \fn.c, the
,. It.
the old
.led
WIUl
a twi•tcd
ook.
b
th, t ii
"'1d l
It"""
fAr
there?
sir.
Ytu1, air,
:.1,1, cru-t
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woTe r-ocU
\11• roe.kl'! there.
t.:lat J. wnJJt.cd.
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r
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tJ
u hoolc te lt
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roe·
r
• i,re. 1
- loo,..i.
~o u,e
did not
on
t cu...1r..
and l wanted
co f'
it
r1U1 !ll'o1: nd
cart locn t.ed wh~re 1 t le no,':'?
or
wae kir.
t L • .... t •1d.e
ti.
cc~n crib.
11round t ..ere t'or n rook?
Q. And you looked
c; How rnr o.rounc did
rot !'a.:'
of
about
v·
you lool<?
i'ec t..
tou did not ~ee a. rock o.nyr.,ieTt?
A
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l diiin'
Did you O!IY 1 t
Q.
••r• you
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So,
?'OCk.
ther • oho r tly
ofter
tbe shoo LIn,?
air.
Q, You do set
4
••• a
""" in April?
t
l dot • t £"0
dC'lwn to
t,.
e:-~.
t.he ~.Atheny
\lt
<:, You ft.re n n.-,rhew ot kr.
1 covlt
home e'lff"ry
week or
r.o t ..tr•.
t&.a.then.y, are you not?
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and
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1 :';:!V~T IILC.6it.
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Y'"lt..:.rJon'
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rerGon
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t-fi
?,.iJnn t.1cn Ct.id you !!!llre. t ftte for
.,
}i:a...
'"-.10Yl•r eD.J.J.n
t a ..-o.r1to toll
lonkiric,
No, I ,unt.,d
the jul"Jy
,YOU wanted
a. cMin
0£!
to
~ton.
tJ1a t
t..,ere lll't>r~ no
buy thoe esrt?
the cart.
rooke?
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BY ll.R, O'I''?:
What we were to.lklm; o.bout
tl,.e opa.co about th• et.i.ble and
corn crib where t., t onrt ~.....
a:lon,... theire and whether you
ever eaw any rocke t.1:orc whett you
were there.
TllT' :SS:
l ncvo:· Ollw a.ny. but to tell
the
fact about 1 t,, I n~Ter look:1td for
ar.y.
1 look1"1d ro, 1or.1, rlr:.t
a.round there,
ar,ounc1 &1'4.)Ut ti:'\
part t 1 !ee.
Let me eee if t und•retand
youi
You loit a tan or. of your ~•eon
add you weut over ttere. to t.il•
old cart to tr/ to i•t a tar
otr ot the cart?
Jm.
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S.""'!'PJC:Q..'\,I
: 1 tbou,t:~
1o,
you e,dd 1 l
s-aeor. &&d ...D t
cart?
lt. tie ~ e CrQr.t. pu·t of a .,.,..,Ron
a.do into a cart.
1 t -waa an old
ono~ ""''- ...,.
ueed for- a cart.
troa
l'f"'..J.fCD
rz,
0ilOR0l-l IU.,
q
fror.t
A
i'Pa,
ao I ooul~
Q.
eir,
you r.o to Cr,ureh,
le
lf
T1m• n~
t.hAt at.able
I "lllked
t.raY ♦ll..S
11r,
yarde
and tifty
tbe
dlatance
do you ueut...lly
oome by th•r•
1 have no dJroct
you l y
1ii
iO'I
t rouet1
th•
route.
corn crib
and near
ttt J.:.r. JilatJ.et.'\1' a?
it 1 go
th& t
"-t-'&'J or
t.11.,r-01,,:n
tb.e ya.rd.
l have
waye.
both
Tell
wn.ioh ~y
I uoually
woul<l tnlce
t. ore,
A Yeo,
tt~
I ■ Upf'OCe th:.it:i wtJUl4 b• a_a neor
nttt by the iard.
Q
hundred
tell,
A Well,
atnt,ln,
three
otablo?
at~eny
the Jury
w, e tuer
r.roUT:d : ere abaut
A Uo, alr,
I bav•
•aa
teet1f1ed.
you 11 Ye about
1 tel.le,
Jlr.
U.•
awo~n.
J-'IU"t
JOU eT.er noticed
the etablo
not
and.
na.tice-d
corn ertb
any rocla!:
any rocke on
•
and dowc there
tt.ere..
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did
piece
of
eod &l..l &.!"'Ound t.::..e:re.
'<
Old you
A
llo.
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The eVeh1nf: or t!lie
rJV4'?'
hea-r l.r,
e1 r. I ne,er
you hear
&,
y voice.a
L.atu-.iny ewe.ctr?
l.ear4
t-.in awea:r.
occurrence
over
on t!~e 29 t.h of June,
t.il-ere?
A Y"e, eur.
q
•nere
A
I wn• ,1 ttin,,
Q
Cl 11lQ you nn .e out. wh&t wae 'teinr,
A
w,.re you? •1ihen
0,
on my front
po~ch.
A
l'fot eo nuc11.. Tot r:o tonr
~
1Jo you know U1e f"~t,er-.J r~uto.tion
.A
I think
1fl nll
it
A
f.Y l:R.
You do not mol'U':' t.o $AY t.:..at
lto, l Jle-Anl to ea:, l did
at
n,1r,
tl.o tine
I heard
l t.
Q, I uridereto.nd
A
but
J
cr.ug.b.ter.
l!Al:lUlF.
•er~
thel-o
not
:rock'Pt uround
yard?
A Yea,
there
any-
•
roocL
not. ace o.ny 'Tl.en 1 pa.,u,t<d by.
Cl D d _you hf"lar t,i,.e report
m~
t.,.ard.
any one of t.•am. be or bia
There m.ifht ba rook& ttl"!re but. l nel'tir
.By a: Juror:
I heard
ot ..._r, .it.uthen:,, in
so fft.Z' oa L ever
CP.00S RXN!ll'ATIOI
tJw t barn
t.....At
oonve.ra· Ucn
rirnt
o.nyth.i.nt. At~inst
T ley 11.r-!"botn
X
■at~?
Dir.
1
neve:r l,oard
did. not
t c Toicea?
h~ard
JOU
l did
1 n -:.er heard
not
1"&&
noticed
o'f tie
the rt'Port
of
any ..l.ffre •
yun?
the sun but
1.. ere.
you never
hes.rd
him e•ear.
1<.<owwhn. t they
1>aid,
hilll ,v·ea.rf/
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DIRECT l!XAl.l'iATlOII !IY Jui.
q, 1 und•r,.t.ood
1 h~ard
A
OTT
you t.o ~,.y :,ou did not h•ar
V•rY 11 ttle
to.ll,.
it. h&lppened
Q. iJow aoon u.rter
very much talk.
you hear
did
•.tu:tt hil.d oc.eu.rre.d
o,;..,r t.-.ore?
l dl.d not. know or
A
Q. CAn you
toll
une.11
it.
the jury
llfter
about.
ru)-,.·
daT;c,
atout
darlc.
uia.ny voice.a you H...a:-df/
A l eid not h~ar b~t one or two vote••·
<t Di~ YO'J.l eaT
~,o, al:r,
A
Uon,
I
n..11 I h~·trd
little
t..n
~1"$
on' t t.illnk 1 did.
o! 1 t.
d!e-:.ane"' frr.i
There
-',. c.
•
SOLR1
Sole
wh.,.•
i.r.
A
C over
Hill
fllr
<\o
and
-rery short.
ccnvereo-
teore us 1 wae a
on i'\e ttvrcn
a.d. o:;i,uld
ice.
teetif1ed.
ne.f\r Ot chine.
you l.i"<e fro111ll.r-. ka~heny7
On,e rule.
~
Rew lon1, ltn Ye you knoYn h1"i?
)'OU
&
(Inly h~ar.
A
ct, Do
ee!')t.er.c~e·t
do you live?
aection
A Prac~ioally
truth
tH
--
slt.t.in.,
anc? could
:.tti.11
ST" rt1
(!
-. .;o
~
tc
tolC.
';wt,
ooul.d llu.ve: been
tJ:em a.nd. ,ru
l
not. e~e. &JlJ of 1 t a't all
\iii tnco
one or
all
of m1 li!e.
know hif'
£~nora.l
reputation
in
tho.t
oom.iiun1 ty for
o.ud 1 r so re 1 t roo.d or ba<!?
A Oood a•
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Do iou know
l~w ab1di1,c
A
tar
Ae
know.
~t& cer.er&l ~eputation
man &Jld if
Good ae
r
tar•~
so 1•
I n~ver heard
or bndf
1 know.
Q. no :;ou kno.~ wh•thc
A
1 t .ood
u a p~aoea~le
or not. he i~ a. ••earinc;
h~m 1J"ear
1n say pr,..eence.
t1an?
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Q
I Judre
A
Pitt.:;.
a man Ccrty•ri~~
you•~~
yeara
of 8';e?
!' . .H.Al.'.l!BR:Do you k.now the £enernl
re,:utat.1on
of l..r. Van1>el t hert
for tru U and Y~raoi "'t}·'!
It ia rood ae far ae 1 know.
Al,o ae to bie oeinr
a~lclii,r
el tieen?
I.R. IWlllKR:
" la"-
Wltne a
Q
Jir.
Cl1ok you are a aurvayor
do a 1:ood dotl
or
aurveying?
of it,
A
A pood bit
Q
You arc
A
y,.£.
q,
You !!T--: ab~ut
:ro..r "'11""
A
Sot1etl1ir.,
thAt.
4
°W"!l"O )'CU
up near
a.
of Rook1oenem County and
r
yea,
!lir.
r. er alrm!
Gir.
llke
1'Y""r
O&lle.1
fro._. lfhu•f: llr.
la t.t.en:; 11 v.-~7
upon to m.a.lct-• tUr'fey
ot
a rond
t.ie pl.r.co~
A Yee,
etr.
Q. Did o.ny oi'
1.,,0. e f''.l?'?e~;e
ta.ke in uy
part
of 1...r. llat:l~ny
J)laceY
A
atr, 1r. oona,.ruct!nf:
"ies,
t.tc roac! tt.q
cut
a~ro.ut
the
lino.
Q. 'Nt.ol"o they Md
A llo,
thoy t,hould
( ueetion
o Jftcted
Obj ec ti on
nu ■
no rlp,t
to ,o?
not have gone
the-re.
to on tho fl"Ound
t.>.1ned.
Uu,t It
lo 1""4ater1al)
11
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..,cc
-£.:
a
#j
hf
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n.
by
!i.
recalled,
VA;r;:i.,
on """"1!1
&nd ~ecti!icd
Uo::-
t: •• cou:-t ... follO'llll!
Vanpelt
.llr.
A
It
,,,. ,t leind of u 1.,un/ ia tn,
?
lltf\ t oalibre?
a t.went:,- ~wo c&libre.
i•
Ci, \:l",ut 111Al<e01 r.un?
A
I don't
A
It
hae 'been r••1'.0del~d.
l.1.o.t t!lt
tc:tBt is ln it
c.a.de 1.he bar:el
oll
b•rr-el
A ~!xtr~n
holde
now out o1 anot.be!"
how many?
loade.
'l'went;r two lont· or t•~ty-two
lo !1 ti.er
one can lo used
A
lfo.
eir.
II,
It
shoot•
lt
wlllnot
only
at.or ta C,.oea t t. enoot?
in 1 t?
ehoot
n lonr
o·t?
ahort.
\110 •llort?
A Y-,e, .eir.
A
Ci,
And equirrela?
A llo • ttir,
"
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Hti!pen ter.
Q. The rnur.flzint
~
it
te a\o"f•ro••d to b~ t,.&t,
a.r:d a !ellow
A
lnlow t.i~at;
you cannot
Thia ehoo tlur
1.,·1tnene told
t~
hit
OO('Urred
atund
a equ1rrol
11tJ.t.h
1 t.
in Rock1n1,;ha.m CoutttJ~?
a.aide.
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'rhl6 bl!!ng
Cc;n,cmv, ltb,
1 ,:
1111 th< evlu ,.oe introd®ed
~: o
'"()a lf o:
1lt< ~~-Lil.>
:r., follo·nr,g
~,rn.:;.
• man oM ·:rnl1 resort
wh.-,,ntht.t
:Jo,uae
or col'"io1-1ebfldil7
nt
in br1nl'!i
t~ult
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Rockingham County Criminal Court: Criminal Cases
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Commonwealth v. D.N. Vanpelt
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Defendant charged with felony murder.
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Matheny
Vanpelt
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If you find
the prisoners
not guilty
the prisoners
guilty
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will
say so
and no more.
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night
time without
in the day tine
VenPelt
with
ascertain
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intent
not less
and fined
or night
their
of the
breaking,
than
five
in jail
the prisoners
of petit
larceny
ten years,
say so and
in the peni ten-
or in the discretwelve
months
dollars.
not guilty
of the felony
afore-
you will
say so and ascertain
less
be confinement in jail not l«&(&(than
their punishment which shall
:fifteen
$1~~ days nor more than six months,
:five dollars
you will
not exceeding
hundred
either
of Mrs. Sarah M. Mflf.N&(ls:p:
which may be confineme;;t
confinenent
in the
and entering
th rein,
one nor more than
not exceeding
but guilty
the barn
to coJTIJT1itlarceny
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punishment
jury,
or of breaking
of entering
or by
nor more than one hundred
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not less
or both.
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suggested
evidence
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the jury
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that
by reasonable
it.
to believe
It must be serious
to find
and non-esnential
or that
it must not be an arbitrary
It I!lust be adoubt
doubt as
case is re ant such a doubt ao is
or grows out of the evidence
by the evidence,.
an acquittal.
for
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in the
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bias
of the evidence
the
testimony
the
arrearing
who testify
to the contrary
jury.
surrounding
point
judges
Ii t
on the
ess
sto.nd,,
or unreaso
facts
bleness
and circum-
and determne
and the weight
to be controlled
upon any particular
the
the sole
o have testified
of the
in the evidence
is to be believed
to be attached
bearing
other
who testify
and weight
they are
the reasonalJleness
and all
is not obliged
that
of the witn
or interest,
given
of the case
The jtry
the jury
and may consider
case
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instructs
whether
to be attached
thereto.
by the number of witnesses
being
greater
upon such point,
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jury that
the law presumes the accused
they are proven gui ty beyon
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and i:f there is upon the minds o'f the jury any reasona.'ble
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evidence sup: orts the
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able doubt upon a material
t'act,
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is their
such doubt and acquit
d.Uty
them.
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to c :,11vict
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them in the indictment,
to constitute
proved. beyond a reasonable
t1e
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such crime :rrnJ.st e
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or element,
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jury that
the facts
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the defendants
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as charged
is not incumbent
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charged
aff'ense
to be ac(Jlitted
reasonable
in the
it
out by evideJ'10e
are entitled
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jury that
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r,~ n as the perpetrator
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instructs
proof beyond every reasonable
timothy seed B.J.idthe barley
whe..'11.
arrested
on the 22nd.,
proof' against
the indictment.
found in the possession
of September
the accused
in the absence of
doubt by the commonwealth that
was the same stolen
day
the jury that
that
the
of the accused
from the barn of s.M. van Pelt
1908 then such pose
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they committed the crime charged in
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charged
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although
they may believ
tha.t the sack found on the premises
as the property
from the evidence
the
of s.M. van Pelt,yet
that
in the indictment
o-f Layton
if" the~r f'l.l.rther belie
the accused did not conmit the crime
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them.
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f'rom the evidence
orib'
itself
that
was the property
the jury
although
they may believe
the sack f'ound in Layton Hensley's
of'
s. M. van Pelt,
ts not a presumption
the evidence
that
of the case that
of t. 1.e sack in the corn-crib
of' guilt,
if
yet such posse
the jury
a reasonable
has been given.
accrunt
believe
corn. ion of'
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for a conviction
eirmunstantial,
part
material
the
in this
excl
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that
the said Hensleys
ie essential
should,
said
larceny,
and that
the
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ar:. with
prison
to a moral
unless
Van Pelt
but the one proposed
roke and entered
the evidence
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and every
actuall/
or enteref,d
intent
or entered
viz:t
itl1
to commit
and every mat eria.l.
actuall'l'
to be proved,
to commit larceny,
rs not gull ty.
1n whole or in r~..rt
with
circumstances
do, to a moral certainty,
intent
that
broke and entered,
the barn of the
thereof
1f the Comnonwealth relies
but the one :proposed to be proved,
breaking
part
that
jury
case upon evidence
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Commonwealth v. Kemper, Layton, and Reuben Hensley
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Defendants charged with felony break and enter and felony larceny.
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Overseers of the Poor: Indentures of Apprenticeship
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Series III is comprised of Rockingham County Indentures of Apprenticeship, which were formal contracts created by the overseers to bind poor or orphaned children to a "master" with who they would learn a trade. Their term generally lasted until the age of twenty-one for males and eighteen for females. Trades were typically determined by the apprentice's sex as well. Active labor and semi-skilled artisan positions were reserved for males, while females often served their term learning to sew, spin, knit, or domestic labor.<br /><br />For more information on the Overseers of the Poor collection, visit the "<a href="https://omeka.lib.jmu.edu/erp/findingaids">Finding Aid</a>" tab in the menu above.
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Indenture of Apprenticeship, Alexander Vanpelt to William Crider
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Blacksmith
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Overseers of the Poor: Indentures of Apprenticeship
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Series III is comprised of Rockingham County Indentures of Apprenticeship, which were formal contracts created by the overseers to bind poor or orphaned children to a "master" with who they would learn a trade. Their term generally lasted until the age of twenty-one for males and eighteen for females. Trades were typically determined by the apprentice's sex as well. Active labor and semi-skilled artisan positions were reserved for males, while females often served their term learning to sew, spin, knit, or domestic labor.<br /><br />For more information on the Overseers of the Poor collection, visit the "<a href="https://omeka.lib.jmu.edu/erp/findingaids">Finding Aid</a>" tab in the menu above.
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<a href="https://omeka.lib.jmu.edu/erp/collections/show/11">Overseers of the Poor: Minutebooks and Correspondences</a>
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<a href="https://omeka.lib.jmu.edu/erp/items/show/4525"> Overseers of the Poor Finding Aid</a>
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Date
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1831
Title
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Indenture of Apprenticeship, William Vanpelt to John Fults
Description
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farmer
Creator
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Overseers of the Poor
Publisher
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JMU Libraries
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PDF
Identifier
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Osp003_004_052
Fults
Vanpelt